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If Russia used tactical nukes against Ukrainian military targets it's extremely unlikely the US, Britain or France would use nukes against Russia.

And once nukes are on the table, Russia conventional forces in Ukraine, and worldwide are essentially immune from conventional attack.

1 posted on 05/30/2023 3:04:51 PM PDT by Mariner
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JoeObama and the Dems are pulling the world into a nuclear confrontation and WW3 and pretty much nobody in the US seems to be aware or even give a rip about it!


2 posted on 05/30/2023 3:07:52 PM PDT by JJBookman (Democrats = Party of psychopaths)
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Ukraine denied any involvement amid fears that the attacks were another “false flag” ruse ordered by Putin himself .

Truth is the first casualty of war.

3 posted on 05/30/2023 3:09:38 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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“If Russia used tactical nukes against Ukrainian military targets it’s extremely unlikely the US, Britain or France would use nukes against Russia.”

Agreed. Highly unlikely.


4 posted on 05/30/2023 3:09:59 PM PDT by KingLudd
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If Russia used tactical nukes against Ukrainian military targets it's extremely unlikely the US, Britain or France would use nukes against Russia.

Nope! You're wrong.

NATO allies and the U.S. would all have to respond. Nukes are out of the question, no matter what type.

And Putin knows it. It would mean the end of his regime and devastating consequences to Russia proper.

If Russia were allowed to use nukes, there would be no country in Europe or elsewhere that would feel safe with Russia around anywhere in the world. It would be an indication to China that they too could feel free to be aggressive with countries nearby and elsewhere. It would be the beginning of WW3.
5 posted on 05/30/2023 3:15:16 PM PDT by adorno
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meh, nothing to see here.
Just Osama/Bidementia, vampiress Nulan, Soros/Schwab upping the ante.
what could go wrong ?!

-fJRoberts-


6 posted on 05/30/2023 3:17:51 PM PDT by A strike ("The worse, the better."- Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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So Russia can bomb Kyiv. But for some reason Ukraine can’t bomb Moscow. That would be an outrage!

This argument makes me sick. And I say that as someone who is nether pro-Russian nor pro-Ukrainian. I have no dog in this hunt.


7 posted on 05/30/2023 3:18:16 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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If Russia used nukes against Ukraine their cachet in the world would drop to zero.

The Ukraine war should not be an existential threat to Russia. The fact that these morons are threatening nukes tells you everything you need to know about Russia. A couple of cardboard drones and these guys are pissing their pants.

The country will fragment and China will take everything north of Mongolia.

Good job Putin.


11 posted on 05/30/2023 3:21:00 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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“And within hours hardline pro-Putin MPs were baying for a nuclear response.”

Russia has some Lindsey Grahams also.


13 posted on 05/30/2023 3:21:59 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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No, but a US, British or French nuke could gently fall off a truck somewhere in Ukraine...

And who knows, there might be a few spares lying around those Ukrainian oligarchs kept post the Budapest Memorandum.


14 posted on 05/30/2023 3:22:13 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS!)
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If Russia used tactical nukes against Ukrainian military targets it’s extremely unlikely the US, Britain or France would use nukes against Russia.
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No, the US won’t use nukes. But they would use tomahawks and F35s. The Black Sea fleet would be sunk. And the level of arms given to Ukraine would jump up to “ the good stuff.”


15 posted on 05/30/2023 3:23:08 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Moscow residents have this song running through their minds after experiencing this Ukrainian drone onslaught:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9pS7iZzNgQ


19 posted on 05/30/2023 3:28:11 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX’)
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Nukes? Why doesn’t Russia just launch its own drones?

Battle of the drones.


21 posted on 05/30/2023 3:32:04 PM PDT by plain talk
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bttt


22 posted on 05/30/2023 3:35:26 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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Pro aggression supporter predictions have a horrible accuracy rating.


23 posted on 05/30/2023 3:35:56 PM PDT by dominusobiscum (Scripture is infallible, interpretations of Scripture not so much.)
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Budanov and Zelinsky have made themselves to be loose cannon, carelessly imagining that they can somehow blackmail the west into supporting adventures outside the borders of Ukraine.

At this time, I would not trust those men with F-16 jet fighters.

Artillery, mortar, rocket batteries, and anti-missile protection - yes; but jets and cruise missles - no.


30 posted on 05/30/2023 3:41:59 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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Cuthbert Shaw's Russian "Nuclear Threat File" is going to get updated for the forth time this month. That makes sixteen Russian nuclear threats this year, in addtition to 30 last year. Since the war started, Russia is averaging 3.06̅ threats of nuclear escalation per month.

"The fact that you're afraid of nuclear war means you are afraid Putin is insane enough to launch nuclear weapons.
Yet you also believe a insane man can be negotiated with. Curious. Anonymous meme twitter."

32 posted on 05/30/2023 3:43:29 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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Russia exceeded their annual quota of nuclear threats back in February. After this they have to pay a fine.


34 posted on 05/30/2023 3:45:52 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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In the greatest tradition of Free Republic, no one read the article, they just read the title. And the title is a huge lie.

In this case, no one saw the attached video, in which Putin does not even mention nuclear weapons, except for the possibility of Ukraine using a dirty bomb. So the title makes absolutely no sense.

Elsewhere in the news today, there was a single member of the Duma who talked about responding with tactical nukes, but that is not “Russia”. It is one guy. We have our own congress people who say wild things that the whole country sholdn’t be responsible for.


40 posted on 05/30/2023 4:06:31 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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Clown— You are addicted to fake Tsar Putin’s nuclear threats. This Kremlin bs made your day.
You know who make the most Rooooskie nuclear bluster? Putin’s stooges on Russian prime time news hour. I have seen many clips of these psychos, hard at it.


46 posted on 05/30/2023 4:15:39 PM PDT by dennisw (Never attribute to stupidity, that which is adequately explained by malice)
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“If Russia used tactical nukes against Ukrainian military targets it’s extremely unlikely the US, Britain or France would use nukes against Russia.”

That’s a good point. I think as the Neocons descend to outright terrorism, the temptation to ‘put an end to it’ will grow stronger in Moscow. As to responses to a tactical nuke, forget it - since Russia has now demonstrated that they can defeat the best air defenses that the West has to offer - so regardless of what Western nukes may or may not be able to do to Russia (no one knows at this point), the West has to understand that they’ll be stuck trying to clean up after some big firecrackers go off over their cities.


51 posted on 05/30/2023 4:30:02 PM PDT by BobL
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