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1 posted on 05/29/2023 9:35:35 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Is there anything left of Bakhmut ?


2 posted on 05/29/2023 9:37:21 AM PDT by butlerweave
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LOL Russia has been methodical in taking out the Ukrainian military. It’s like they funneled Ukrainian men and American equipment into a meat grinder. Now we are sending F-16s? We are about to learn how out dated they are.


4 posted on 05/29/2023 9:44:39 AM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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Its hard to trust the Wall Street Journal on anything any longer.


5 posted on 05/29/2023 9:46:18 AM PDT by PGR88
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“but its leaders have said bogging down Russian forces there was worth the cost.”

LOL. Bogged down which forces? 10,000 prisoners of 1200 Marines holding their flanks? That leaves That leaves 98% of other forces to their own devices.


6 posted on 05/29/2023 9:46:48 AM PDT by NorseViking
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What a brainless contention. Zelensky threw everything Ukraine had into keeping Bakhmut and lost 50,000 men there with up to 70,000 more injured. It's a graveyard.

And, the Ukrainian/NATO army was destroyed by the Wagner group not the regular Russian military.

7 posted on 05/29/2023 9:51:35 AM PDT by Kazan
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Ooh! Oooh! The rainbow flag will be flying over the Kremlin any minute now. /sarc


8 posted on 05/29/2023 9:54:51 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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Russia mainly lost convicts.

Ukraine lost a large percentage of its finest soldiers.


9 posted on 05/29/2023 9:57:05 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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“Russian forces.” Are there more than 100 actual Russian Army soliders, or just prisoners and Wagner ops?


13 posted on 05/29/2023 10:03:35 AM PDT by montag813
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a pyrrhic victory at best for the evil putin and his fans


16 posted on 05/29/2023 10:05:43 AM PDT by Sunsong
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Another edition of shill boxing - same old crap from the usual suspects.


23 posted on 05/29/2023 10:30:09 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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Russia has taken a city that NATO spent since 2014 fortifying. This meaningless city is the key transportation hub in the region and without the roadways Ukraine has little hopes of holding the rest of this region. If this city was and is so meaningless, why did Ukraine suffer 50,000 KIA to hold it... against convicts armed with shovels, and thus we reach the reason Ukraine is losing this war. The British media and the New York News media can’t seem to get their story straight. Russia will continue to advance in this war using artillery to destroy Ukrainian fortifications without losing her own soldiers.

Something Satantic is going on with the USA and it’s homosexual/anti-family diplomacy. The truth according to the West is that Russia is being defeated by Ukrainian offensives. All these freeper’s who believe Biden when it comes to Ukraine preplex me as to their wanton stupidity.


24 posted on 05/29/2023 10:38:20 AM PDT by Jumper ( )
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How is the Ukrainian Spring offensive going? Are they to Moscow yet?


31 posted on 05/29/2023 12:00:41 PM PDT by PAR35
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“Bakhmut is like Stalingrad because it has attained a symbolic importance far beyond its strategic significance,” said Mark Cancian, a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.
Ah, the warehouse of the genius of Henry Kissinger, with its water carried by Brzezinski, McCain, etc., and now a Pritzker family asset. Cancian may be legit, but he's completely bound to the establishment, thus this spin on the Ukranian loss.
32 posted on 05/29/2023 12:08:49 PM PDT by nicollo ("I said no!")
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33 posted on 05/29/2023 12:12:04 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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Didn’t Zelensky speak before Congress six months ago and talk about how strategically important Bakhmut was?


34 posted on 05/29/2023 12:22:33 PM PDT by fso301
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1. Ukraine clearly thought it was strategically important - as did Russia.

2 maybe this is why:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-14/bakhmut-soledar-salt-mine-tunnels-yevgeny-prigozhin-wagner-group/101845462


37 posted on 05/29/2023 12:56:33 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Hi Fraud vitiates everything)
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A lot of hype and forced parralells here.

The protracted battle, in which thousands of Russian soldiers have died, has drawn parallels to past sieges, such as the World War II fight over Stalingrad, in part due to its apparent futility.

Unfortunately for this comparison Stalingrad had the possibility of actually being decisive in knocking the Soviet Union out of the war. If the German had been able to hold the city they would have been able to interdict traffic on and parallel to the Volga river blocking Soviet access to their main supplies of oil. A little study of that campaign and you quickly realize that the only way Germany could have held Stalingrad would have been if the Soviets had allowed them. Bakmuht is a minor rail and road junction, useful but not decisive.

40 posted on 05/29/2023 3:29:25 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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“exhausted and hemmed in with little chance of advancing”

Who writes this drivel? Russia is extremely dangerous and WSJ is minimizing dire threat.

It is obvious to even the most casual observer that Russia chose a drawn-out battle in Bahkmut to substantially diminish the size of UKR forces.

MEANWHILE the president of Ukraine has not set foot in his own country since the time that he droned Putin’s residence 4 weeks ago. He is here hiding in the US after a world begging tour.

UKR Spring Offensive will have to be a Summer Offensive since there is hardly any Spring left.

If Russia is as exhausted as WSJ says, UKR victory must be at hand. And so, we raise our Debt Ceiling to pay for it, what?


41 posted on 05/29/2023 3:32:10 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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The only way Russia can win this war is if Russian propaganda wears down NATO resolve. The propaganda isn’t directed at governments, it’s directed at you.


43 posted on 05/29/2023 4:14:57 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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