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'Ron DeSantis raked in big money for his re-election' - article details illegal transfer of soft money to neverbackdown pac
Nbcnews ^ | May 24, 2023 | Ben Kamisar

Posted on 05/26/2023 4:15:53 AM PDT by backpacker_c

The governor's state political committee, Friends of Ron DeSantis, had at least $86 million in the bank at the end of April.

Federal Election Commission rules state that “a candidate’s authorized (federal) committee may not accept funds or assets transferred from a committee established by the same candidate for a nonfederal election campaign.”

But DeSantis' political operation will direct that money to his supportive super PAC thanks to a gray area of federal campaign finance law.

It's even possible that a transfer has already taken place, but it would not be made public until the end of the month under state campaign disclosure laws.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bigmoney; democratsfortrump; desanctimonious; desanctus; desantis; fec; friendsofrondesantis; illegaltransfer; mccainfeingold
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What desantis is doing is a violation of FEC regulations and mccain-feingold.

desantis thinks he can get away with this illegal transfer, because when byron donalds did the same thing with several $100k, the FEC deadlocked on a ruling along party lines.

If this gets deadlocked again, except this time, with the amount over $85 million, then watch the left start playing the same game to get around FEC regulations and limits on soft money campaign donations.

So, for desantis, it's another rule for thee, but not for me.

1 posted on 05/26/2023 4:15:53 AM PDT by backpacker_c
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To: backpacker_c

Nice try, media moron enemy.
As anyone buys your little acts any more.


2 posted on 05/26/2023 4:18:28 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: backpacker_c

I don’t find DeSantis re-allocating leftover funding from his Governor race to his Presidential one near as upsetting as when Trump collected $250 million from donors for an “election security fund” but then immediately transferred that money to a PAC to pay for his rallies and travel costs instead.


3 posted on 05/26/2023 4:20:36 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Florida is where WOKE goes to DIE!)
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To: backpacker_c

Speaking of campaign funding, if you ever decide to donate to MAGA, Inc, make sure you pay attention to the default check boxes. You might end up emptying out whatever legacy you had hoped to pass on to your loved ones. An elderly hospice patient figuratively at the Death’s Door (is there any other kind?) had his bank account zeroed out.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/03/us/politics/trump-donations.html
[Stacy Blatt was in hospice care last September listening to Rush Limbaugh’s dire warnings about how badly Donald J. Trump’s campaign needed money when he went online and chipped in everything he could: $500.

It was a big sum for a 63-year-old battling cancer and living in Kansas City on less than $1,000 per month. But that single contribution — federal records show it was his first ever — quickly multiplied. Another $500 was withdrawn the next day, then $500 the next week and every week through mid-October, without his knowledge — until Mr. Blatt’s bank account had been depleted and frozen. When his utility and rent payments bounced, he called his brother, Russell, for help.

What the Blatts soon discovered was $3,000 in withdrawals by the Trump campaign in less than 30 days. They called their bank and said they thought they were victims of fraud.

“It felt,” Russell said, “like it was a scam.”

But what the Blatts believed was duplicity was actually an intentional scheme to boost revenues by the Trump campaign and the for-profit company that processed its online donations, WinRed. Facing a cash crunch and getting badly outspent by the Democrats, the campaign had begun last September to set up recurring donations by default for online donors, for every week until the election.

Contributors had to wade through a fine-print disclaimer and manually uncheck a box to opt out.]


Turns out Trump was running behind in donations, decided to supercharge his numbers by making the check boxes, which defaulted to a weekly pull, as inconspicuous as possible. Some ended up contributing close to $100,000, well beyond the (then) $2,800 individual limit.

Post-election, the Trump campaign ended up refunding $64m to unwitting contributors. Turns out the whole post-election “Fight the Fraud” come-ons for small donors was an effort to make Trump’s campaign whole for the over-charges that had already been spent on the election. The donors who had been overcharged needed to be repaid the $64m they had inadvertently given to Trump. Individual contribution limits meant the overcharges weren’t just unethical - they were illegal.


[The tactic ensnared scores of unsuspecting Trump loyalists — retirees, military veterans, nurses and even experienced political operatives. Soon, banks and credit card companies were inundated with fraud complaints from the president’s own supporters about donations they had not intended to make, sometimes for thousands of dollars.

“Bandits!” said Victor Amelino, a 78-year-old Californian, who made a $990 online donation to Mr. Trump in early September via WinRed. It recurred seven more times — adding up to almost $8,000. “I’m retired. I can’t afford to pay all that damn money.”

The sheer magnitude of the money involved is staggering for politics. In the final two and a half months of 2020, the Trump campaign, the Republican National Committee and their shared accounts issued more than 530,000 refunds worth $64.3 million to online donors. All campaigns make refunds for various reasons, including to people who give more than the legal limit. But the sum the Trump operation refunded dwarfed that of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s campaign and his equivalent Democratic committees, which made 37,000 online refunds totaling $5.6 million in that time.

The recurring donations swelled Mr. Trump’s treasury in September and October, just as his finances were deteriorating. He was then able to use tens of millions of dollars he raised after the election, under the guise of fighting his fraud claims, to help cover the refunds he owed.]


The question has to be asked - could Trump, as a billionaire several times over, have reached into his own pocket for the $64m he overcharged his supporters, and spared them the angst of having to deal with credit card companies and credit bureaus to reverse those charges? If he lacked the cash, could he have taken out a low-interest loan until post-election contributions plugged the gap? Sure. But he chose not to. And that is another aspect of Trump’s personality that people need to know about. It’s not just ex-wives he screws over.


4 posted on 05/26/2023 4:27:56 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: backpacker_c

So what is :non federal: about running for president?


5 posted on 05/26/2023 4:34:29 AM PDT by Dandy (Drain the swamp baby!!!)
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To: backpacker_c

Sorry for the previous post. I miss read the article.


6 posted on 05/26/2023 4:35:47 AM PDT by Dandy (Drain the swamp baby!!!)
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To: backpacker_c
Please ignore the mis-represent and lies the desantis supporters will put forth to distract from the actions desantis has done.

It is highly likely desantis had planned and held off announcing he was running for president, so he could continue to grift campaign donations into his state level pac, in avoidance of federal campaign limits,

And readers can see some background on what desantis did, with references, here in this thread.

Why desantis has waited to declare he's running for president, and how he's committing campaign fraud.

And the actual text of mccain-feingold is here

FEC Legislation

7 posted on 05/26/2023 4:44:40 AM PDT by backpacker_c ( )
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To: backpacker_c

Do you really believe NBC. Haven’t you learned your lessons yet? The story will disappear like a fart in the wind.


8 posted on 05/26/2023 5:03:52 AM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: backpacker_c

Sounds like he put together a swampy laundry. Any foreign donations being routed through the laundries?


9 posted on 05/26/2023 5:14:34 AM PDT by bray (Dr Fauxi killed millions)
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To: Zhang Fei

First, I would never give out my bank account number or checking account number. I donated through Winred once and I caught that bs early on. Never again.


10 posted on 05/26/2023 5:15:54 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: backpacker_c

We’ve been getting, what seems like, a lot of promotional mail for Desantis, so I’d agree he has a lot of cash on hand.

—Wish I could tell him to stop wasting it on us. —We’re solid Trump supporters here.


11 posted on 05/26/2023 5:19:52 AM PDT by Cats1
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To: virgil

I good rule of thumb is.....Never donate money to a political campaign.


12 posted on 05/26/2023 5:20:55 AM PDT by Dandy (Drain the swamp baby!!!)
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To: lucky american
Another desantis supporter, possible nevertrumper, trying to lie and mis-direct people.

I had done the research and provided references at to the fraud desantis was committing in post 7.

As I have said in other threads, desantis supporter frequently have trouble with the truth,

Just like desantis does.

13 posted on 05/26/2023 5:21:51 AM PDT by backpacker_c ( )
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To: Zhang Fei

You should also attack Jeb Jeb and W for the same thing.

Oh and DeSantis, too.

That’s a standard practice in political fundraising campaigns.

Speaking of which, while we’re all here discussing fundraising let’s contribute to freerepublic (and make sure to check that subscription box) to keep this great place going -

https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=P5K5QZGVTL4PW


14 posted on 05/26/2023 5:27:58 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: backpacker_c

Your NBC article describes it as “a gray area of law.” In plain English that means “not illegal.”

Many pols do it. The FEC has investigated others for it but done nothing about it. Why? Because it’s not illegal.


15 posted on 05/26/2023 5:30:18 AM PDT by elenvee ("...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..")
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To: backpacker_c

Frankly it’s not hard to raise money when you have EVERY establishment donor trying desperately to stop Trump.

See Jeb Bush prior to 2016.


16 posted on 05/26/2023 5:30:40 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: backpacker_c

Get real.
This is NBC’s attempt to take out Ron so they can concentrate on Trump.
Stop helping the Democrat Party.


17 posted on 05/26/2023 5:31:52 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: backpacker_c
This thread is altogether too serious. Trending on Twitter:

The guy in the background to the left is obviously Roger Stone, his consigliere.

18 posted on 05/26/2023 5:36:17 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: backpacker_c

Too bad the boyz and gurlz at the Nothing But Communism PeeCock show aren’t interested in looking into what their Dung Beetle Party massahs are up to.


19 posted on 05/26/2023 5:43:23 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Since O'Bama was ruling the roost, America has gone from melting pot to septic tank of the world.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Thank you.

Trump's fundraising is full of grift like that

20 posted on 05/26/2023 5:44:43 AM PDT by hcmama
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