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Study: Recycling is Actually Bad for the Environment
Hotair ^ | 05/25/2023 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 05/25/2023 9:34:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 05/25/2023 9:34:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
No $hit!
2 posted on 05/25/2023 9:37:53 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trintarian. Deal with it!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I’ve known this for years and get pissed off at the recycling line item on my garbage bill that I have to pay for no matter what. I don’t recycle tho.

By the way, I did some retirement research a few years ago. I came across a county that had no building codes other than state mandated electric and no trash removal…they have a county dump if you want to use it. I wonder if such freedom truly exists. It was Boundry Country ID, btw.

3 posted on 05/25/2023 9:50:03 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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To: ConservativeInPA
In northern NH, our plastic really does get recycled.

There is a plant in Groveton, NH that converts plastic to diesel fuel and home heating oil.

4 posted on 05/25/2023 9:59:42 PM PDT by Mogger
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To: ConservativeInPA

Years ago I saw photos from China of them stripping the silver solder and wires from electronics. In the street, contaminated colored water in the ditch, smoky fires (burning insulation off the wires) and piles of waste next to their shacks with little kids both playing and working on dismantling the electronics.

Mine all get dumped in the garbage to be sent to a double-lined landfill 20 miles from my house. I do have to cut them down to size to fit in a black plastic garbage bag sometimes.


5 posted on 05/25/2023 10:00:15 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The headline doesn’t quite capture the gist of the article - which is about plastic. Not recycling in general.


6 posted on 05/25/2023 10:01:57 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

It seems simple to me.
You burn the paper to create carbon stock for plants. The plastic gets incinerated for asphalt. The metal is sent to be recycled.

That’s how simple it should be, imo.


7 posted on 05/25/2023 10:05:43 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: Mogger

Burning it (along with other garbage) is a feasible way to “recycle” it. One thing that wasn’t mentioned in the article (or many when it comes to “garbage”) is the amount of food that is not wasted due to the excellent packaging that plastic provides.

I forget the details, but they had estimates of how much food was damaged back in the day before plastics (and shipping containers) and it was astounding. I can only imagine a ship with bananas that had to be loaded into cargo nets, hauled on board, dropped in the hold, transported across the ocean and then the process reversed once it got to the states.


8 posted on 05/25/2023 10:10:54 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Jonty30
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I was wondering how feasible the use of plastics would be in asphalt (guessing it would be as both are hydrocarbon based).

The above firm is doing it, and I imagine many others are as well. Just the little bit I read sounds like the use of plastic is beneficial to the road and the vehicles. I imagine there are downsides. But - at least the plastic is cheap!

I did some work at a firm that was looking at uses for the shells of coco beans. They found that ground up it could be used as a type of flour in baking, and they were experimenting with other stuff for it. I have no idea how big the market for coco flour is, but good for them if they can make money off of somebody else’s waste product.

Sort of like the OSB plywood that is so prevalent today. Although I bet those wood chips aren't considered “waste” anymore.

9 posted on 05/25/2023 10:20:25 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are microbes and worms that consume and devour plastic in landfills and elsewhere. There are similar ocean microbes that gobble up the plastic that ends up in the ocean.

Reminds me of the large oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. When the drill pipe broke, thousands of gallons of oil was released into the Gulf. What they don’t tell you is that all over the planet, at the bottom of many oceans, oil seeps and is released all the time. It is a natural part of the world. The microbes that eat the oil just love when more food is available. When the bean counters and ‘scientists’ tried to find all the oil that flowed into the Gulf, they came up significantly short. There were plumes on the surface, and underwater, but it did not all add up to what they calculated it should be. Finally, someone pointed out the discovery of large plumes of the oil-eating microbes. As the food source increased, the microbes also went forth and multiplied.

So it is no surprise that there are microbes eating plastic. Most of the plastic we use comes from....yes....oil!


10 posted on 05/25/2023 10:20:57 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: 21twelve

This firm’s examples are all geared to how environmentally friendly their roads are. I guess they are promoting it to clients that want to hear that sort of thing. (One of their examples was a new road to a nature preserve).

I would prefer “And because we use waste materials that people pay us to haul away; we can cut costs, deliver a better road for less money, and make a larger profit!”

Although I would imagine that the cost of breaking the plastic down into a usable form costs more than just buying the raw material.


11 posted on 05/25/2023 10:26:35 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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There are reasonably affordable solutions to recycling, that work. However, the environmental movement wants de-industrialization.

I saw a video of an Asian company that feeds food waste to black fly maggots. From those maggots, important pharmaceutical and cosmetic chemicals get produced enmasse. The leftover waste is turned into fertilizer.


12 posted on 05/25/2023 10:43:46 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: SeekAndFind

The sainted recycling outfit scam in Hawaii county was exposed after they were caught just dumping the separated stuff into the landfill.

Guess they were collecting money from the county with a wink about saving da erf....


13 posted on 05/25/2023 10:56:18 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: SeekAndFind

Recycling allows patrons to pay more to have their recycling dumped in the same place as their trash.

AND

Recycling lets people feel like they are climate heroes, better than everyone who doesn’t recycle.


14 posted on 05/25/2023 11:45:32 PM PDT by greatvikingone
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Idiotic headline. Recycling is definitively a good thing.

But since plastic is not yet recyclable/decomposable, it should be separated from the other waste.


15 posted on 05/26/2023 12:14:36 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Then I’m excelling at helping the planet.


16 posted on 05/26/2023 3:19:21 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Funny how no one has ever conducted a study on how the floating garbage patch likely provides safe cover for innumerable species, protecting microscopic organisms, larval life, barnacles, and tiny crabs and fishes from predation, and is likely a food factory for larger fishes, etc. There is an upside to every downside.


17 posted on 05/26/2023 3:21:54 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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“Sort of like the OSB plywood that is so prevalent today. Although I bet those wood chips aren’t considered “waste” anymore.”
Very little of OSB and other wood composite products are from waste. The full logs are chipped up into chips and fibers for such products. There would not be enough waste to produce the amount wood composite product we use now. They even put whole logs between rollers to crush into strands to make “lumber”.


18 posted on 05/26/2023 3:46:59 AM PDT by jimfr
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To: SeekAndFind

Years ago, someone suggested making all plastic bottles in the shape of building blocks, then using them for new construction.


19 posted on 05/26/2023 3:50:54 AM PDT by firebrand
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You left out that what WAS detectable in the water was the crap they’d pumped in trying to round up the oil.


20 posted on 05/26/2023 3:53:57 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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