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In France, they called Zelensky's most terrible secret in the conflict in Ukraine
VPK ^ | 24.05.2023 | Staff

Posted on 05/24/2023 9:04:52 AM PDT by Kazan

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To: marktwain; Kazan

Ole’ Samuel sits high in my pantheon of true American heroes. If you are determined to use him for your nick, you have a high bar to clear, an expectation to be correct. Yet the first sentence of your post misleads by supposition, that Ukraine is fighting for its home and Russia has the choice to fight or not. In actuality the causes of the war are reversed, Russia is fighting for its life and Ukraine now has the option to stop attacking, after taking the option to attack Russia. There is a lot of propaganda about this but after you boil your socks you are left with this. I’m sure Mr Clemens would agree.


41 posted on 05/24/2023 6:34:09 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy ("Man is the only pack animal that will follow an unstable leader." Cesar Chavetz)
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To: SandwicheGuy
Ukraine is fighting for our oligarch class. Those in charge of this war couldn't give too hoots how many Ukrainians do or how much more Ukraine shrinks.

This was a proxy war from the beginning we wanted.

Ukraine would have been just fine if the Minsk Agreement had been adopted.

BTW, it was ethnic Russians in Donetsk and Lugansk that were the ONLY ones fightig for their homes.

42 posted on 05/24/2023 6:46:41 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

I agree totally.


43 posted on 05/24/2023 6:48:54 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy ("Man is the only pack animal that will follow an unstable leader." Cesar Chavetz)
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To: ansel12
"The Legion requires a five year enlistment."

Well that screws up my "go dark" plan.

44 posted on 05/24/2023 7:09:30 PM PDT by fini
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To: fini

You’d learn new skills.


45 posted on 05/24/2023 11:09:07 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: marktwain
" The problem for the Russian military is they are fighting a "cabinet war", or a war of choice, while the Ukrainians are fighting a war of survival, or existential war, where they have no choice."

Bullshit. Russians are fighting an existential war against a coalitionof nato fops, neocon wankers, and hoho kleptonazis all hell bent on dismembering Russia, all having studiously ignored every kind of warning abut red lines over a long period of time.

46 posted on 05/25/2023 2:33:22 PM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: Kazan; All

Again, basically, the lunatics who rule over us via massive election fraud and theft, swould llike to rule the entire world the same way, and the ONLY thing standing between them and that goal ia Vladimir Putin and the Russian military. Any US citizen who supports this nato proxy war is a demopoop, an idiot, a wanker, a devil-worshiper, and a mental-defective with no redeeming features.


47 posted on 05/25/2023 2:42:50 PM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

troglodytes...

Bone Tomahawk


48 posted on 05/25/2023 2:43:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ganeemead

Is Biden partnering with Putin on a new Iran nuke deal part of this “proxy war”? How about John Kerry wanting to partner with Russia on climate change hoax? Proxy war there, too?


49 posted on 05/25/2023 2:52:06 PM PDT by lodi90
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