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To: Jim Noble
I am a product of a mixed marriage - Mom Dodgers, Dad Giants, so I can speak to the Horace Stoneham question.

I am as well. My father was New York Giants, my mother was New York Yankees. She converted upon marriage. My father abandoned the Giants and adopted the Mets. My mother stopped practicing altogether.

My brother and I both became Dodger fans.

I knew most of the background of the story, outside of Stoneham's drunkeness (I followed the Dodger side of things). I do think we are referring to different polls, but either way, O'Malley was a villain. I also understood that Stoneham was given his pick of cities, and chose San Fran. Maybe he was manipulated, but does an owner of a major league franchise have to be discussed as if he were a mental incompetent?
35 posted on 05/22/2023 7:31:24 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Dr. Sivana

After the nabka, my Dad took me to Philadelphia a couple of times on the train to see the Giants play the Phillies.

The last time we went, the game was rained out, it was cold, we got soaked and we didn’t get home until 3:30AM. Mom put an end to the trips to Philly.

After that, it was listening to Les Keiter’s recreations of the games in San Francisco on WINS 1010. I still have a broken old clock in my home office set to 6:05, the time of those old broadcasts.


36 posted on 05/22/2023 7:46:09 PM PDT by Jim Noble (It is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government)
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To: Dr. Sivana

According to some, Stoneham was originally thinking of moving the team to Minneapolis. As the story goes, O’Malley convinced him to move to San Francisco. Also, remember when the Giants almost moved to Tampa, Florida in 1992?


53 posted on 05/23/2023 11:26:25 AM PDT by drew
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