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Republicans walk out of debt ceiling talks, say White House isn’t being ‘reasonable’
CNBC ^ | 5/19/23

Posted on 05/19/2023 12:27:38 PM PDT by EBH

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To: Jonny7797; All

Exactly. The agencies do nothing but break rules all day long but somehow they’d never dare break the “debt ceiling” law? How about the don’t interfere in elections law? How about the don’t spy on your countrymen law? Breaking laws is that the bureaucracy does.


41 posted on 05/19/2023 1:46:59 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: EBH

The Republicans in the House have only the Constitutional power of the purse, and we will use the tool the Constitution provides wisely and to the best of our ability.

The Democrats could have avoided the issue by increasing the debt authorization amount back in 2021, but they chose to play politics instead.


42 posted on 05/19/2023 1:49:46 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: EBH

Not losing sleep over the theatrics. Brandon clowning with umbrella in Japan.


43 posted on 05/19/2023 2:05:02 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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They’re taking us all the way back to 2022 Spending Levels!

Oh, the Horrors.

As usual, the Media is hiding the real issue.


44 posted on 05/19/2023 2:07:36 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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To: Revel

I said about 10 democrats go go along. Or is it 15?


45 posted on 05/19/2023 2:15:54 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: EBH

I’m guessing “Brandon” is coming home early not due to the “debt crisis”, but because his handlers are aware that the jet lag, and the “arduous” schedule will be too much for him. For those that may not have seen it, he damn near face planted while attempting to walk down a short flight of stairs (I believe) in Hiroshima this morning. He was also spotted with another one of his prepared lists of talking points. Anyone that believes this guy has anything productive to add to the conversation concerning our national debt is just as much of a mental deficient as he is.


46 posted on 05/19/2023 2:47:36 PM PDT by Salty Longshanks
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To: EBH

Dems will pinky swear to cuts and reductions next time, promise


47 posted on 05/19/2023 2:48:52 PM PDT by The Louiswu (You cannot free a man from the chains which he reveres.)
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To: EBH

Democrats promised their voters an annual raise in their Federal stipends - and can’t accept any budget deal that won’t allow for it.


48 posted on 05/19/2023 2:52:11 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Mr. Jeeves

They also have 87,000 new IRS agents that need to be included...


49 posted on 05/19/2023 3:14:07 PM PDT by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon)
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To: Revel

If it makes Bidens desk it will be reluctantly signed.


50 posted on 05/19/2023 3:18:35 PM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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To: EBH

People think the gop will cave.
First, the MAGA/Freedom Caucus has a four-foot iron colon buster poised behind McCarthy if he blinks wrong.
Second, the House has the advantage because they drew an actual plan and threw it on the table first. Joe and Chuck have nothing. Third, Joe is showing weakness leaving town and refusing to talk. He doesn’t have the brain cells.
Fourth, the press is catching their breath after the final Durham report. They lost a ton of traction selling the Russia hoax.


51 posted on 05/19/2023 3:32:26 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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People think the gop will cave.
First, the MAGA/Freedom Caucus has a four-foot iron colon buster poised behind McCarthy if he blinks wrong.
Second, the House has the advantage because they drew an actual plan and threw it on the table first. Joe and Chuck have nothing. Third, Joe is showing weakness leaving town and refusing to talk. He doesn’t have the brain cells.
Fourth, the press is catching their breath after the final Durham report. They lost a ton of traction selling the Russia hoax.


52 posted on 05/19/2023 3:32:34 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

McCarthy so far has done a good job. They are not caving on this.


53 posted on 05/19/2023 3:42:33 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party - Dumbing Down America Since 1965.)
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To: desertsolitaire

Republicans should schedule the order of how payments will work. Let the rats complain.


54 posted on 05/19/2023 3:49:15 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party - Dumbing Down America Since 1965.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz; Revel
Some standing rules regarding in which order payouts of funds available are made must exist as we’ve hit the debt ceiling 20+ times before, lasting up to just over a month, IIRC. I believe debt interest payments come first. I don’t know the subsequent order, but it’s worth discussing and perhaps tweaking. However, strategically I’d argue changing that order during this debt ceiling bill would be stupid. We HAVE a bill. We have reasonable sounding talking points. THEY have nothing so don’t give them any rule changes they can twist and focus against us.

Many government projects require passage of two parallel but separate Congressional paths to realize. One stating what they want done, and the other, via separate bills, deals and committees to provide the funding to pay for it. Congress has approved many (promises) ‘projects’ which sit unfilled until same or future Congress either finally fund them or formally cancel them. Debt ceiling provides a third path. If promise bills have been signed and funding bills signed, you can spend for that project if and only if that revenue has already been collected or you have the authority to borrow the funds. If funds via collected revenue plus borrowing authority are less than total promises made then promises spent shrinks by the difference. For which promises shrink or flatly break, see first the above standing rules and next whatever executive branch discretion they provide Joe et al. Don’t blame us! We said Joe could borrow a $T+ more to fund stuff he ranks as important so long as he agrees to cancel a bunch of promises we (and overwhelmingly the public) thing should be broken. Don’t to sign our deal, fine then Joe gets to choose spending cuts for for ever $ he’d have to have made under our bill, plus an additional $T+ he wouldn’t have had to cut had he taken the borrowing we’d offered. BTW, Joe vetoes House + Senate deal here produces same result as no deal made. Veto can’t save Joe from this. He’s either going to have to formally cancel some promises or semi-arbitrarily pick certain Dem grift groups over others. Smarter (≠ smart) extremists on his side recognize this and want to redefine the word “debt” in the 14th to avoid the choice. I think that’s a lie too far and would be perceived as a sign of weakness even by most lay democrats.

Freedom Caucus folks have been burned many times in the past and learned from it. They’ve instructed McCarthy well and he’s playing their cards well. Even the usual RINOs, in both houses, who traditionally have backstabbed good plans are firmly onboard. The weak links, looking at the next election cycle, are all on Joe’s side.

55 posted on 05/20/2023 11:51:58 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo ops)
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To: EBH

They think they have a mandate for the green new steal. Try reasoning with lunatics.


56 posted on 05/20/2023 4:11:54 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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