Posted on 05/19/2023 11:28:57 AM PDT by Twotone
Women are at least twice as likely as men to be injured in Army basic training, according to data collected over six years by the service.
Most of those injuries were musculoskeletal -- meaning they affect the bones, muscles, joints and tendons of female recruits. Military.com obtained the injury data as the Army is looking for ways to boost recovery for men and women moving through boot camp.
During 2022, nearly 30% of female recruits were injured on average each month during Army basic training. The average was 23% per month between 2017 and 2022, the data shows. During those years, about 12% of male recruits were injured each month.
The gap between male and female injuries in Army basic training isn't unique to the military.
Female athletes are also typically more prone to injury compared to their male counterparts, with women being more likely to receive bone and knee ligament injuries and stress fractures, according to a 2018 study published in the Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation medical journal. Part of that is due to women having smaller bones and less muscle mass.
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I was 155 lbs (male) when I was in Afghanistan. I was also pushing 50. I did my job well, but my job was on a FOB. NOT infantry. I did my part but I couldn’t match a fit, 200 pound guy in his 20s. Not off the FOB.
And most of the women there were a lot smaller than me.
Now image a 120lb female soldier tying to do that or humping 70 lb tank rounds.
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The guys do it while she helps by supervising earnestly.
“She throws like Obama.”
No, rather ‘Obama throws like her.’
Before 1972 women were limited to 2% of the Army, which they were in reality less than, and they were only seen on main post, behind the lines nursing, accountants and clerks in finance, and working in the law offices, and of course as secretaries and such.
The men in combat arms and in support units that worked with them were men.
Support units have to fight and they have to do full physical jobs, they have to drive trucks cross country and dig them out of the mud and change the huge tires, move 100 pound shells all day, and lift industrial-size cooking pots and set up kitchens in the field, dig fighting positions and move trees out of the way.
Being support is still full-sized man’s work, I don’t know what people are thinking when they assume that support is like the gal sacking your groceries at Walmart.
People also don’t consider that it isn’t just physical, the very presence of the female among soldiers is detrimental.
Besides, why are we still discussing this as though it was 50 years ago, “if a woman can do the job” “some women” etc, this is 50 years later, we are seeing the results of the female in the military and it is clear it isn’t their world, and that they are changing it ALL into their world, which means a sort of anti-military chick world of basically a good federal job removed of the elements that women can’t do and don’t like.
Until we are defeated and this nation belongs to another country’s people.
Women do not belong in the armed services in my opinion.
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Woman have their place in the military, but combat arms is NOT one of them.
Morally strong, righteous nations do not send their child bearers ( future) and woman into combat.
The downfall of our military began when we allowed women into combat arms. The natural order has been violated.
Where is “Ft. Bennington”?
I got a serious case of poison ivy at Ft. McClellan. Benning too. Face blew up and I had a shaving profile for a few days. Stuff happens.
There are many roles women could fill in the military: air defense, air traffic control, drivers, etc. Just no combat arms jobs I can think of apart from pilot.
When all women are trannies and real women fade away, the problem is solved.
“I must be old school or something because I just don’t think it appropriate to put women in combat positions. Support positions sure.”
It’s not that simple. When you put women in support billets in the Navy, and not on sea (potentially combat) duty, you are taking a shore duty billet away from a male, increasing his shore/sea duty rotation. This creates a moral problem and causes division. (My bone fides: 20 years in the Navy, 1977 to 1998.)
When I threw my first grenade I was praying not to drop it. That would have been awkward.
I expect many defeats for our current military ( which we are beginning to see) especially when pitted against nations that have not violated “ the natural order”.
Not fighter pilot. Women don’t do as well handling high G forces. Not sustained over time. My daughter was in the Marines. She argued it wasn’t just “Can I train to do this one time?” but, “Can I train to this standard AND MAINTAIN IT for years. From what I saw in fighters, the answer with women was “No”.
But yes, there ARE roles women can do well. Ones that keep them on a protected base and that doesn’t require brute strength.
Well I’ll take your word for it then since I was never in the army (almost joined the army reserves) and am not familiar with the duties of those in support positions.
Keep an eye on that Southern border. This Nation will soon belong to them without a shot being fired. Perhaps since they are willing to risk so much just to make that trip, they may be willing put up a little effort to correct this Nation's woes. We're just going to continue voting in rigged elections and blogging angrily.
“””There are many roles women could fill in the military: air defense, air traffic control, drivers, etc.”””
No, they can’t.
People think that it is like civilian life, in the military truck driver, getting weapons systems through the Russian winter or the jungle growth and setting them up and repairing and maintaining the tracks, fighting when the enemy airborne land in the rear, it is physical.
In Panama, a truckload of paratroops were annoyed when the truck had a flat and the female driver and her female co-driver could not handle the heavy truck tire to change it.
In war the system breaks down, the roads and bridges are destroyed, and the support people have to do the hardest labor of their lives.
“Before you throw a live grenade, you spend a whole day throwing mass dummies, from different positions.”
When you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is not your friend.
“She throws like a girl.”
I kind of agree, but from what I have observed, she throws like a girl who didn’t grow up with brothers.
Where is “Ft. Bennington”?
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Typo- but that said I am waiting to see what our twinkle toes Pentagon decides to rename Benning, my concern is where I spent three years with the 82nd at Bragg…..who ever asked us vets about renaming bases that we hold dear?
The bright side- this administration has lost all support and respect from 6 percent of America’s population- many vets are fit to be tied.
Our platoon all threw ours on the same day. We were in line in a bunker, and right before you throw, you can watch the guy in front of you throw through a periscope. You were supposed to throw and immediately crouch behind the sandbags. The guy before me was a black guy, about my size. He threw his first of two grenades and stood there admiring it. The two instructor threw him bodily on the ground. I think they let him toss the next one.
I mentioned he was black because the first week or so of basic he told me, in formation he was going to kick my ass. I told him we could meet off-base. Apparently he was trying to show off what a bad ass he was, and he was picking on one of the littlest white guys. (I was about 5’ 7”.) Now first or second week, another black guy about 5’ 3” has his canteen pop out of his web gear while we were double-timing. He didn’t notice he had dropped it, but I fell out grabbed it, and caught up with the formation, which is what a buddy should do. He didn’t know he had dropped it until I offered it to him.
For the most part I got along with everyone, but all the black guys, all the Hispanics, hated my “adversary”. Towards the end of basic, the sadistic drill sergeant had us pair off more or less at random, and practice slap boxing. I drew another black guy, about 6’ 2”, with a lot more reach, who was going to go to MP school after basic. He came at me with a big roundhouse swing, which I blocked and went inside on him, slapping him on the face repeatedly from below. He broke formation, and I followed him, chasing him across the company street. My “adversary” was horrified. Me and the MP candidate just shook and treated each other like sportsmen. There were about 40 guys in my platoon who wanted me to kick that moron’s butt, but I justed wanted to move on. But I did derive some satisfaction watching make a fool of himself on the grenade range.
I feel much the same way.
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When he spoke on that subject, I knew I could learn something accurate.
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