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DeSantis asked if Trump lost due to fraud, points to recent, frequent Republican defeats
Florida's Voice ^ | May. 15, 2023, 12:03 p.m. ET | Eric Daugherty

Posted on 05/15/2023 9:14:43 AM PDT by conservative98

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To: Sacajaweau
Nothing wrong with that. And I agree that’s the way to handle it....because you can prove nothing.

We can prove a hell of a lot, but what we cannot do is get our proof onto television where the rest of the nation can see it.

People nowadays are stupid. If it's not on television, it doesn't exist.

61 posted on 05/15/2023 10:27:04 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: x
DeSantis didn’t say there was no steal. He avoided saying that. Nobody knows who really won. If Biden stole enough votes to win, that can’t be definitively proved, and the results aren’t going to be changed now.

To my knowledge, DeSantis has never acknowledged any of the evidence of 2020 election fraud in the swing states.

And yesterday, he said nothing about needing to stop a similar 2024 steal in order for us to win. In fact he said that we should ignore those "excuses", it's a "distraction" and that we could simply win without addressing that issue.

On what planet?

62 posted on 05/15/2023 10:29:36 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: House Atreides

So, I see you can also see that asking DeSantis about the elections in 2020 and 2022 are also instances that have not been proved one way or another, yet they are asked like there is an already proven conclusion as defined by the left and the RINOs.


63 posted on 05/15/2023 10:30:51 AM PDT by dforest
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To: srmanuel
It’s also true that candidates that made stolen elections part of their campaign, lost in multiple states.

Are you kidding? Arizona is the poster child for garbage corrupt elections. Kari Lake did not lose, she was cheated by a system that was completely corrupt.

And they are now starting to put forth some of the proof about how corrupt was the election in Arizona.

And so you seem to think if corruption in elections wasn't fixed, we were going to have fair elections, and all the candidates that talked about corrupt elections lost fair and square?

Hello? Corrupt elections makes the results corrupt, and of course the people who talked about doing something about corrupt elections didn't win. Hell, in Arizona, the gal running for governor *CONTROLLED THE ELECTION*.

64 posted on 05/15/2023 10:31:11 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: dforest

Acutally, Trump hurt DeSantis and Republicans nationwide in 2018 when the widely predicted Red Wave flopped despite peace and prosperity due to Trumps Jerk Personality bringing out millions of voters to vote against Republican candidates across the board.

DeSantis barely won against a black, radical self avowed anti police socialist in a booming economy in normally conservative Florida. Why? Because of his close association with Trump. Thats why. As was the case in normally conservative Georgia where Stacy Abrams also nearly won the governorship. Add to that with the Dims picking up over 40 seats in the House and Senate in conservative states like Texas, Arizona,Nebraska and Nevada, the Red Wave was a big fail for Republicans.

People will often vote against a candidate by voting for his opponent. Trump brings out millions of anti Republican voters. We saw that in 2018,20, and 22 when the following predicted Red Waves fell flat.


65 posted on 05/15/2023 10:32:35 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: srmanuel

yes there is no reason if we are using technology that an election cant be counted in under 8 hours of the polles closing. the only reason it takes over 8 hours is to allow shinnanigans.


66 posted on 05/15/2023 10:33:39 AM PDT by PCPOET7 (`)
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To: newzjunkey
He’s not wrong about the losses but he failed to attribute any cause. On the one hand he tried to avoid Leftist media narratives about election fraud which is smart but it’s also frustrating he didn’t offer a reason. I assume he’s implying it’s Trump’s fault.

What he should have said was:

"I cleaned up elections in Florida and suddenly I won by 20%!" Make of that what you will. "

67 posted on 05/15/2023 10:35:22 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: srmanuel

“Continuing to harp on stolen elections only gets you one defeat after another...”

Evidently you DeSantis-bots can’t handle verbs. The correct verb is not harp, but mention. I have heard Trump give two hour long speeches, and he will mention it for two or three minutes. And it is sure to happen again if it is not mentioned and warned about.


68 posted on 05/15/2023 10:39:49 AM PDT by odawg
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To: newzjunkey
Trump should have accepted defeat once the electors were chosen and pivoted to what’s next.

Disagree. They stole the executive branch of our nation, and have caused nearly catastrophic consequences, and may actually cause the deaths of millions of people before this is done.

It is the worst crime in the history of America to steal an election through fraud and corruption. Nothing else is more important than this. We have an illegitimate evil government that has resulted in death and misery, and it never should have been tolerated.

My regret about January 6 is that it wasn't even close to what they have accused it of being. Stealing an election actually deserved a full scale insurrection.

69 posted on 05/15/2023 10:40:01 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: dware
Harping, yes. Doing something? No. But, we've done nothing to end the fraud, so it will continue. I will be voting for Trump in '24, but I expect him to lose due to the fraud that will commence.

This exactly. Nothing has been done to stop election fraud in any of the swing states, and therefore we will get exactly the same corrupt election result we got in 2020.

70 posted on 05/15/2023 10:41:44 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: conservative98

It’s sounds like gobbledygook


71 posted on 05/15/2023 10:43:41 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: srmanuel
Meanwhile the country is literally falling apart and many Republicans are still complaining about 2020.

Unbelievable. It is falling apart precisely *BECAUSE* of 2020. This border crises? These gas prices? This ridiculous inflation? China on the warpath, Russia invading Ukraine?

Just about every wrong thing happening now is *BECAUSE OF THE ELECTION STEAL OF 2020!*

72 posted on 05/15/2023 10:45:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: x
If Biden stole enough votes to win, that can’t be definitively proved, and the results aren’t going to be changed now.

It can be proven to the extent that any rational and sane man can see it.

A few weeks ago someone posted a link to a youtube video featuring one of the guys who worked in the Arizona audit of Maricopa county Arizona. He was testifying before the Arizona Senate.

He said they handed him the military ballots to process. He said in 2016 there were 1600 military ballots. In 2020 there were 9600, and they were not actual ballots. They were copies of images of ballots on 8x11 printer paper, and they were all for Joe Biden at the rate of 95%.

If you know anything about Arizona's voters, or about Military voters in general, these absentee ballots are false on the face of it. Literally impossible for those numbers to be correct.

2020 was a Stalinesque election.

73 posted on 05/15/2023 10:50:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: higgmeister

Trump left his J6ers to rot in the DC gulag. He didn’t lift a finger to help them. I guess that’s ok, though.


74 posted on 05/15/2023 10:51:10 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Jim Noble
You are glossing over the corruption and making excuses for it.

No, it was *NOT* legal, because corruption of the election renders the election null and void regardless of what "authorities" pronounce it to be.

75 posted on 05/15/2023 10:54:52 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Uncle Lonny

I think one of the things that lost the down-ticket seats for the GOP was actually Trump’s last-minute endorsement of candidates who weren’t doing very well but were, in his opinion, loyal to him. A lot of people might have voted for the original leader of the pack, but they simply didn’t like the people Trump endorsed and of course some of them didn’t like him but were going to vote for him anyway and then probably didn’t.

Personally, I think Trump was cheated but he responded to it the wrong way and made it seem all about him. He should have started lawsuit after lawsuit, and toured the entire country urging fair election procedures. But of course by then he had given up his Presidency to Fauci and Pence, and I think that was also a factor.

De Santis has been working like crazy here in Florida to clean up our election procedures...remember Florida in the Bush elections, when boxes of ballots were found floating in the bay and in the vehicle trunks of Dem “election supervisors?” But he did the hard stuff, he fired bad people and appointed good people (one of the bad people went to jail), and got new laws passed.

And the secret to his success is that he can actually work with other people on laws, projects, etc. Trump never could because it was all about him and he regarded a competent ally as a rival so he got rid of them. Not a good strategy.


76 posted on 05/15/2023 10:57:01 AM PDT by livius
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To: lodi90

“ Trump left his J6ers to rot in the DC gulag”

Trump was out of office before they were even adjudicated Einstein


77 posted on 05/15/2023 10:57:48 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: Sacajaweau

Lol. If he pulls off a miracle and gets the nom…. Hell get to experience the fraud first hand. Those who refuse to acknowledge the past are doomed to repeat it.


78 posted on 05/15/2023 10:59:50 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: DiogenesLamp

There is nothing in the Constitution that ties the appointment of Electors to popular vote elections.


79 posted on 05/15/2023 10:59:51 AM PDT by Jim Noble (It is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government)
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To: gas_dr
The solution is easy. Learn how to beat the ballot harvest by our harvesting.

OMG. I cannot tell how many times I've seen this foolish idea put forth.

The way Democrats do ballot harvesting is *ILLEGAL*. We cannot beat them at it, because we cannot do the illegal things that they routinely do.

We cannot go to nursing homes and register all the senile mentally incompetent and then vote in their names. We cannot register illegals, felons and imaginary people and vote in their name. We cannot vote for dead people, or use parking lots and businesses as "residence" address for fake voters.

We cannot beat the Democrats at corruption.

80 posted on 05/15/2023 11:00:02 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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