Posted on 05/15/2023 9:14:43 AM PDT by conservative98
SARASOTA, Fla. (FLV) – A reporter asked Gov. Ron DeSantis whether he believes that former President Donald Trump lost the 2020 election to President Joe Biden due to “fraud.”
The reporter noted comments from DeSantis over the weekend in Iowa where he urged Republicans reject a “culture of losing.”
“Do you acknowledge that Trump lost and there wasn’t all this fraud that he talks about?” the reporter asked DeSantis.
“Well, I look at the last however many election cycles: 2018, we lost the House […] We lost the Senate in 2020, Biden becomes president and has done a huge amount of damage,” he said. “Very unpopular in 2022, and we were supposed to have this big red wave.”
“Other than, like, Florida and Iowa, I didn’t see a red wave across this country,” DeSantis continued. “I think the party has developed a culture of losing. I think that there’s not accountability.”
He pointed to his accomplishments and electoral success in Florida in 2022, winning by nearly 20 points.
“You can sit there and talk about cable news, social media, all these other things that people are fixated on. And for me, it’s like, OK, what’s that true north?” he said. “You obviously got to win otherwise you don’t get a ticket to the dance. But once you do that, how are you going to be able to actually bring about big change to make people’s lives better?”
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“If Trump hadn’t of stepped in for Ron, he would have lost to the drug addict homo Andrew Gillum the first time around.“
If you want a friend in politics, buy a dog.
““I think the party has developed a culture of losing. I think that there’s not accountability.””
Ok, so....does that sound like someone that is beholden to the establishment (GOPe), as has been claimed by some here?
Not to me. Sounds exactly like what we’ve been saying for years (decades?) about how the GOP promises change if only we give them the majority, and then when we vote them into the majority, they do NOTHING. And that the GOP seems perfectly content with being in the minority because then they don’t have to DO anything until it comes time to make more promises (lies). And then many of them still get voted back into office, despite their lame broken promises.
He knows (as Trump or any other serious minded person does ) the Government as founded is broken and nothing short of a Civil War can restore it.
Voting fraud is one example, he cleaned it up in his state but other states such as PA have illegally codified vote fraud at all levels, but SCOTUS refused to step in.
So what DeSantis supposed to say, on day one in office he will restore Federalism by violating it ?
As for Trump, well he complains about anything that doesn't go his way, I think its as much of a "New Yorker" thing as it is his personality.
But whomever the Republican nominee is, they are in a no win situation.
Anything they do to woo independents will alienate the base since we despise "single issue/identity politics" and independents despise Federalism and the our Government as founded .
At this point in our history we are on a collision course for a Civil War, and like all wars it will be a horrible thing to endure, and will require a lot more pain before a critical mass is reached to start it.
Unfortunately, I believe the coming years will be the saddest in our history.
Look at the number of total votes in the 2016 presidential election. Then the amount of votes in 2020. Seriously. Are there even that many of registered voters in the USA. Even though he only won the swing states by a few thousand votes here and there. It was a landslide. If they actually ran biden against Trump again imagine how many votes they would need this time. And can they hide the video of them stuffing the drop boxes again for 2 years.
Blame Rona Romney for those.
In contrast, Kari Lake FIGHTS, and just look at what her team has uncovered about what those crooks did to the machines and the hundreds of thousands of mail-ins that were allowed with signatures that look nothing like what is on the books. We would have never known any of this if she had politely 'moved on' like Ronna and the other RINOs.
“At this point in our history we are on a collision course for a Civil War, and like all wars it will be a horrible thing to endure, and will require a lot more pain before a critical mass is reached to start it.
Unfortunately, I believe the coming years will be the saddest in our history.”
And I fully expect our enemies without to take full advantage of our weakness during this era of destruction. Thanks to the help from our enemies within, the Democrats.
Do you believe Biden got 306 votes in the only Presidential election in the Constitution?
Do you believe those 306 voters all had certificates of ascertainment signed by their governors?
Do you believe that the relevant State Legislatures (AZ, WI, MI, PA, and GA) never had a session at which valid objections were filed and debated, ending on a vote?
Kari Lake is not giving up. And her 'harping' about her stolen election keeps revealing more and more of the fraud that happened, and the AZ Supremes are now allowing her to view the hundreds of thousands of mail-ins that whistle-blowers said had signatures that looked nothing like what was on the books.
“You can’t make changes to election laws until you actually win elections first.”
You can’t win without free and fair elections. It is not that hard to understand. DeSantis turned Florida from Purple to Deep Red the second he fired the Dade Country Supervisor of elections. Florida was able to count all it votes in hours and is the third largest state (millions more voters than most). It used to take Dade County days if not weeks to count. By the way this change did not happen only for him. DeSantis won Florida by 200,000, Trump won Florida by over 600,000 in 2020. In 2018 DeSantis barely beat a homosexual cokehead by a few thousand votes. The state changed in 2 years by firing one person who would count vote fairly.
And yes we should harp and not be cowards.
It is a fact that millions of votes were not signature checked.
It is a fact that Drop boxes had no video monitoring or had their line of site blocked.
It is a fact Zuckerberg illegally paid out 400 Million Dollars for Dropboxes.
It is a fact 50 Intel Officials Fraudulently Signed the letter about Hunter’s Laptop.
It is a fact FBI meet with all social media companies to censor dissident voices and NY the Post.
It is a fact 100s of thousands of votes did not have a proper chain of custody.
It is a fact 100,000s ballot adjudications were done outside of two parties and not properly supervised.
It is a fact millions of ballots were mailed out illegally against state consitutions.
It is a fact a lot of elderly care homes had 100% participation and some black precincts over 100%.
It is a fact that several precincts’ military voted 80% for Biden (never happened in history). Military votes Republicans.
It is a fact they covered up windows at counting centers so the public could not witness the vote counting.
It is a fact they used COVID to keep Republican election watchers ten feet away during counts in heavily Democrat areas.
It is a fact that Dropbox videos were illegally deleted in several states so reviews could not happen.
It is a fact that they set the machines alogirythm to kick out excessive ballots for adjudication and subject huge numbers of ballots to arbitrary change.
It is a fact in AZ 58% of the ballot tabulators failed logic and accuracy testing.
It is a fact in AZ Maricpa County according to “testimony of over 200 witnesses who were voters at vote centers, 59% of Maricopa County vote centers experienced severe malfunctions of tabulators.
It is a fact Pennsylvania failed to maintain accurate voter rolls per federal law. Other swing states too.
It is a fact vote rules were unconstitutionally changed without the state legislatures.
It is not a fact that Biden outperformed every living previous president in history by 20,000,000 votes. The clown could not draw a crowd of 50 and insulted blacks weekly.
To get away with it all you need is a corrupted media and political establishment that won’t tolerate dissent so they can keep the power away from the people. Election fraud has a long history outside of Trump.
“When RINOs say there is no fraud, then the fraud that Democrats used in 2020 and 2022 will continue.”
Are you saying that DeSantis said that there is no fraud? I didn’t see or hear him say that.
DeSantis points to recent, frequent Republican defeats.
Yeah well he’s going to find out what it’s like.
If DeSantis cannot answer a yes or no question about the 2020 election or the J-6 detainees he is not getting my vote.
Yep, we can't clean up the fraud if we can't first admit it exists.
I think we are looking on the wrong direction. When the media repeatedly asks the same question it is to direct the narrative. The real question is what don’t they ask. Because as we focus on what they are asking it is reducing the space to discern what is really occurring.
And you never hear of ballot harvesting. It is the loss of security of the ballot by mail in vote and the Covid emergency measures that were misinterpreted or at least allowed those states so inclined a crack to loosen security of ballots that harmed us. This loss is security could certainly account for the roughly 10-12% increase in ballots cast
The solution is easy. Learn how to beat the ballot harvest by our harvesting. The minute we get better at using their techniques then they are is when they will scream for us to stop.
You must not pay attention to the news very much.
DeSantis absolutely would have lost had DJT not stepped in. As it was, DeSantis BARELY won WITH DJT’s endorsement.
He pointed to his accomplishments and electoral success in Florida in 2022, winning by nearly 20 points.
You create election police and start arresting people, and you win your next race by 20% (Unheard of) and you don't see the connection between putting fear into the cheaters and a massive win?
Florida always used to be a squeaker of a race, and suddenly it is lopsided by 20% after you scared the bejezzus out of election cheats?
None of the other states did any of that, so the corruption is still happening in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona and Nevada.
And Ron would be a no personality zombie harvard dude who needed that Queens loudmouth’s help to be where he is today.
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