Posted on 05/15/2023 5:58:32 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
"The Washington Post has deleted a part of an interview with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in which Zelensky responded aggressively when asked about his own military intelligence agents' alleged "dealings" with Russia's Wagner Group.
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(Excerpt) Read more at youtu.be ...
Conflation.
You’ve went to the well for that already, and while it does apply in certain situations it doesn’t apply here.
Secondly, the usual suspects here, when HT or others cite WaPo, NYT, or TASS in the situation you are describing, when it applies, they still brush it off as Putin propaganda and that knee-jerk reaction against Russian or Indian media shouldn’t be used because it’s illogical.
As well, DM has clearly been caught in propaganda, I’ve aeen no repentance from DM over it, others here keep using them, and it’s past old.
Plus, they here attack the messenger (like HT) when they don’t even attempt to prove the article from them is propaganda and yet try to worm out of it when I attack what what DM has posted, not it itself, ahd then go from there.
Is western media though just as bad?
Secondly, so why do you think non-Slavic westerners play the following games:
Tbe usual suspects here, when Hindustan Times or others cite WaPo, NYT, or even TASS still go so far to brush it off as Putin propaganda, seem to make no attempt to try to go after the substance of the article as I did with thw DM article on the Ghost, and that knee-jerk reaction against Russian or Indian media shouldn’t be used because it’s illogical.
As well, DM has clearly been caught in that propaganda, I’ve seen no repentance from DM over it, others here keep using them, and it’s past old.
Plus, they here attack the messenger (like HT) when they don’t even attempt to prove the article from them is propaganda and yet try to worm out of it when I attack what what Daily Mail has posted, not it itself, ahd then go from there.
The Russian and Ukrainian heritage of corruption and Soviet style lying and bluster is hard to shake. It goes beyond the dissimulation common in all wars. I believe the Russians are wholly in the wrong as they are the aggressors. But I don't buy into either side's propaganda.
You and the “usual suspects” do exactly the same thing, just opposite of each other. They attack and malign your sources, and you theirs.
It’s all mirrors. Just look at yourselves.
All of the sources are ALL propaganda.
The only thing that tells the truth is the map of the front lines. It hasn’t changed much at all for months. This war is in a stalemate.
If you really don't understand why the entities owned by the rus nazi government are not a good source of information regarding the invasion conducted by the rus nazi government then It's surprising you can put several letters together.
Of course a nation at war would have an intelligence source(s) (double agents) with “back channel” communications to their enemy(s). It is not a scandal nor unusual nor does it have the meaning the title of the video tries to give it. And of course those in the government leaking such secrets are not doing any favors for their own country and can easly be seen to be acting knowingly against their country. The “journalistic” “scandal” is that none of it - the real events - is a scandal.
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Zelensky's men working hand-in-glove with Russia's Wagner? Ukrainian Pres' interview sparks row, Its All Over Except ... wrote: Conflation.
You’ve went to the well for that already, and while it does apply in certain situations it doesn’t apply here.
Secondly, the usual suspects here, when HT or others cite WaPo, NYT, or TASS in the situation you are describing, when it applies, they still brush it off as Putin propaganda and that knee-jerk reaction against Russian or Indian media shouldn’t be used because it’s illogical.
As well, DM has clearly been caught in propaganda, I’ve aeen no repentance from DM over it, others here keep using them, and it’s past old.
Plus, they here attack the messenger (like HT) when they don’t even attempt to prove the article from them is propaganda and yet try to worm out of it when I attack what what DM has posted, not it itself, ahd then go from there.
The Pro Ukrainian posters on this site NEVER tolerate any source or poster that counters their 'narrative', and yet they post MSM articles and dispatches from their revered Ukrainian 'pilot' CIA asset Denys Davidov 24/7.
THey post MSM who actively accuse Trump of Treason and have lied to us about him for YEARS and when you post a DM article, they screech all content from DM is invalid because DM posted an untrue article elsewhere.
They attack the messenger and denigrate the sources used. and then they go on to post Ukrainian propaganda fresh from the Ukrainian government via MSM and Denys Davidov as if that makes them morally superior!
I had wondered if the two were collaborating when Wagner’s leader began saying things more compatible with Ukrainian messaging versus Russia’s, so this seems plausible.
It’s enough to make your head spin, indeed.
Well, at the very least, you fully and without reserve condemn proven Russian troops atrocities in such places Buch, Irpin, Kramatorsk, Mariupol, Kherson, Chernihiv as over the last year or so (usually when fleeing and out of drunken spite) .
Right?
Tucker’s interview was excellent.thanks
no surprise that waPo is trash.
I’m still surprised that trolls are still posting pure propaganda here and haven’t had their posting privileges suspended.
sad
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