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Wagner chief offered to give Russian troop locations to Ukraine, leak says
The Washington Post ^ | May 14, 2023 | Shane Harris and Isabelle Khurshudyan

Posted on 05/15/2023 2:57:16 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

In late January, with his mercenary forces dying by the thousands in a fight for the ruined city of Bakhmut, Wagner Group owner Yevgeniy Prigozhin made Ukraine an extraordinary offer.

Prigozhin said that if Ukraine’s commanders withdrew their soldiers from the area around Bakhmut, he would give Kyiv information on Russian troop positions, which Ukraine could use to attack them. Prigozhin conveyed the proposal to his contacts in Ukraine’s military intelligence directorate, with whom he has maintained secret communications during the course of the war, according to previously unreported U.S. intelligence documents leaked on the group-chat platform Discord.

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Other leaked documents reveal Russian Defense Ministry officials privately wondering how to respond to Prigozhin’s criticism of the military’s performance and his demands for more resources, which they apparently conceded were not illegitimate grievances. The documents also speak to a power struggle between Prigozhin and top officials, including Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.

Against that tense backdrop, Prigohzin has carried on a secret relationship with Ukrainian intelligence that, in addition to phone calls, includes in-person meetings with HUR officers in an unspecified country in Africa, one document states. Wagner forces provide security to several governments on the continent.

The leaked U.S. intelligence shows Prigozhin bemoaning the heavy toll that fighting has taken on his own forces and urging Ukraine to strike harder against Russian troops.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: 1asplanned; bakhmut; bullshitsnake; chechnya; ciagarbage; ciapropaganda; discordleaks; prigozhin; putin; putinfansragebelow; ramzankadyrov; smellslikebullshit; timberfullofshit; wagner; wagnergroup; whataloadofcrap; yevgenyprigozhin
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Dead man walking.


1 posted on 05/15/2023 2:57:16 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Another symptom of Russians being morons and scum. Fruitless to dive into thinking about how their twisted minds work. Much better to figure out how much lead it takes to kill them.

The UK already gave Ukraine its Storm Shadow missiles. Time for the Biden administration to stop pussyfooting and provide ATACMS (less capable than Storm Shadow) and give the OK for F-16s.


2 posted on 05/15/2023 3:02:24 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Timber Rattler
"When informed that U.S. intelligence documents revealed Prigozhin’s communications with Ukrainian intelligence, the mercenary commander appeared to make light of the situation. “Yes of course I can confirm this information, we have nothing to hide from the foreign special services. Budanov and I are still in Africa,” Prigohzin wrote on Sunday via his Telegram channel."
3 posted on 05/15/2023 3:07:47 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

Just seems like he’s trying to generate some civil war in Russia....Wagner versus Russian military.


4 posted on 05/15/2023 3:08:45 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Timber Rattler

Prigo with his merc army, are the ones who can off Putin and make peace with Ukraine. The world is sick and tired of dumbass Vlad. As far as Russia goes, Vlad is bad for their business of selling oil and gas to the world. Every Rus oligarch will tell you this.


5 posted on 05/15/2023 3:21:32 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Timber Rattler
“informed intelligence assets”

Comments like this is why nothing you post is trustworthy.

6 posted on 05/15/2023 3:30:24 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: dennisw

That’s the reason Putin blew up his Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Russian politics is not about what is good for Russians, but about what’s good for Putin.

Europe could have tangled a prize in front of groups who could kill Putin - remove him and we’ll restore the gravy train where we’ll give you money for your gas.

Putin saw this as a threat and ordered it blown up.


7 posted on 05/15/2023 3:32:47 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Krosan

Even the Washington Post journalists are amazed that you are so stupid that you assume every word they wrote is true


8 posted on 05/15/2023 3:33:42 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: JonPreston
You're a fool.

“Yes of course I can confirm this information, we have nothing to hide from the foreign special services. Budanov and I are still in Africa,” Prigohzin wrote on Sunday via his Telegram channel."

9 posted on 05/15/2023 3:34:49 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

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10 posted on 05/15/2023 3:36:24 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: Timber Rattler

Meanwhile
According to reports Wagner made more gains in the city itself overnight in the so called nest

And

Russians deploy airborne assault troops to outskirts of Bakhmut, heavy fighting continues

https://news.yahoo.com/russians-deploy-airborne-assault-troops-062545604.html


11 posted on 05/15/2023 3:39:20 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: Timber Rattler

Good thing we can keep secrets.


12 posted on 05/15/2023 3:41:47 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Timber Rattler

His 15 minutes of fame are just about over.


13 posted on 05/15/2023 3:44:45 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: janetjanet998

I’m sure that puts a thrill in your heart.


14 posted on 05/15/2023 3:48:58 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Mount Athos

I’m carrying the torch Ronald Reagan lit. You’re preaching the anti-American drivel of Code Pink commie scum.


15 posted on 05/15/2023 3:51:25 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Timber Rattler
You're a fool.

It's been a catastrophic few days for the Ukraine military, losing thousands of men each day to the Bakhmut meat grinder, and here you are standing behind Washington Post propaganda. I suspect you'll disappear again when the Ukraine falls

16 posted on 05/15/2023 3:51:58 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: popdonnelly

I’m sure that puts a thrill in your heart.
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Why because I report facts?


17 posted on 05/15/2023 3:52:33 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: Timber Rattler

“Leaked US intelligence”in the Washington Post?

Then the opposite is true.


18 posted on 05/15/2023 3:58:35 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: pepsionice

Maybe he’s not trying to do anything, maybe it’s the CIA or some other disinformation agency trying to sow discontent and infighting

Think about it, if this article were true he would be dead before the sun went down, no country would tolerate open treason like that.


19 posted on 05/15/2023 4:13:52 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Fido969

I do not know if this is true. It could be disinformation from the U.S. to ferment a rift between Prigozhin and Moscow. But it could just as likely have come from Moscow itself as an excuse to rid themselves of Prigozhin. Who knows?


20 posted on 05/15/2023 4:13:53 AM PDT by Petrosius
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