Posted on 05/13/2023 5:41:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
We’ve heard from just about every progressive that there were plenty of things that Daniel Penny could have done that didn’t involve keeping Jordan Neely in a chokehold. He could have asked, “How can I help you?” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez called it murder, but in an interview said the general tactic for subway riders in distress was to “avoid eye contact, look down between their shoes, and wait for the moment to pass.” But what if the moment doesn’t pass?
Rolling Stone political reporter Asawin Suebsaeng works for an outlet that gave a rape hoaxer a national platform. He, too, says there’s a thousand ways for a tough guy to restrain a weaker, unwell man.
Even if you accept that Jordan Peely was a clear and present danger, do these alleged tough guys know there are roughly a thousand ways to restrain a weaker, unwell man that doesn’t involve life threatening asphyxiation https://t.co/frYxi7PSqM
— Asawin Suebsaeng (@swin24) May 13, 2023
Okay, Bruce Lee, enumerate these thousand ways.
— RoguePhilosopher (@RogueMind77) May 13, 2023
You’re why they have tampons in men’s restrooms now 😹
— M2 (@Amer1can_Barbie) May 13, 2023
From a guy who clearly has never stepped in to defend anyone.
— Jeff Briggs (@regulater9) May 13, 2023
Show me 6.
No, not what you say to strangers in a glory hole. Show us just 6 of your epic techniques, internet tough guy.
— Kyle Beckley (@Kyle_Beckley) May 13, 2023
Please outline your preferred approach out of those thousand that you, personally, would have selected, Professor Lockhart.
— Tom in FL (@thomasa56) May 13, 2023
You've never encountered anything dangerous in your life and wouldn't know what it takes to subdue someone. I remember Hollywood Florida police hitting one guy with 4 sets of tasers, and he still wouldn't go down. Just stop all this silliness.
— Scott Coleman (@bandphan) May 13, 2023
Let's add that you don't know if he has a knife and then you tell us just one of these thousand ways.
— Dennis OG Spongeworthy (@spongeworthy2) May 13, 2023
Spoken like someone whose only fight ever involved pillows.
— Johnson, SGT, 1ea (@MaconLetisTmato) May 13, 2023
He would break down due to “assault” pillows.
— Vincent Parry, Redneck MBA. (@VincentParry2) May 13, 2023
Please enlighten us.
— Mary (@MEM_allofgrace4) May 13, 2023
Yes, being a master of jujitsu should be required to ride public transportation
I’m professionally trained to safely restrain people having some kind of episode and it’s harder than you think it is and it requires a team to do correctly. Even with “weaker” individuals
— mark safranski (@zenpundit) May 13, 2023
How many people have you tried to subdue with mental health issues and possibly drugs or alcohol on board?
— Don Helpingstine (@dhelpingstine) May 13, 2023
May you never encounter the super human strength of a paranoid schizophrenic man having a violent, manic episode.
— Lyndsey Fifield (@lyndseyfifield) May 13, 2023
Are there? Can you demonstrate?
— Cristine "Ps no A" Rice (@PstafarianPrice) May 13, 2023
Prosecutors will spend weeks doing a second by second analysis of chaotic, kinetic, high adrenaline situations. The only way a civilian can win is not play.
So never intervene. Walk the other way. If the bad guy kills innocent people, tough shit.
— Simplex Patriae Advocatus. (@LawyerSimple) May 13, 2023
Please list the 1,000 other ways and detail for us how you would have used them in the this situation.
— Scott Sanders (@ScottSa20301286) May 13, 2023
Since there's roughly 1000 ways, how about you tell us roughly 10 ways to subdue a clear and present danger while locked in a metal box.
— Spidey (@al4n_woot) May 13, 2023
What are your hand-to-hand bona fides?
— Mike Truesdale (@MikeTruesdale5) May 13, 2023
and yet you didn't specify even one 🤷♂️
— Brad Morse (@CritRacePapers) May 13, 2023
Why did it take 3 men to restrain him and not 1 ?
— Patrick Leijon (Lay-yawn) (@PatrickLeijon) May 13, 2023
We get it dude, you’ve never been in any real-life physical confrontation
— ❕ (@LoneStarTexian) May 13, 2023
List 5
— Pyrrhus (@Locke_vs_Hobbes) May 13, 2023
Meth heads take 3 or four full tazers without being phased. Take 6+ bullets and still get up.
I don't think you understand how strong a person is, when they can't feel pain.
— Arthur Frelling Dent (@ArthurFrDent) May 13, 2023
This guy thinks he's an expert on hand-to-hand physical violence pic.twitter.com/4Mfkpet16d
— Dick Delaware (@DickDelaware5) May 13, 2023
Yes, he should have shot him in the legs
— Ahmed Al Assliken 🍑👅 (@assliken) May 13, 2023
So in the middle of a threatening situation, you’re supposed to try and guess just how little force is needed? There were multiple people involved trying to restrain him. And I don’t think the intent was death.
— Taro Tsujimoto (@RCannon74) May 13, 2023
Without assuming they had any special equipment, can you name just a tenth of those 1000 ways to safely restrain a person that cannot kill them, and prevents them from harming the person doing the restraining?
— IntlArmzDealer (@IntlArmzDealer) May 13, 2023
Ordinary people are not supposed to know that. It’s the job of police. When you undermine police, and release dangerous people among ordinary people, you can’t expect them to know professional ways of handling a dangerous person.
— DK (@pinokole) May 13, 2023
I would pay good money to see this Rolling Stone reporter demonstrate some of these methods. Would not want to responsible for his doctor bills afterwards.
— William Stranix (@GetRyback92) May 13, 2023
We’d be fine with a list of just five ways. We don’t need the full thousand.
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False premise. How do you know it was a choke hold?
When I was a policeman my fellow officer killed a man who came at him with a knife. The press wanted to know why the officer didn’t shoot the knife out of his hand. This is the mentality of the public.
Throw a banana peel under is feet. Works every time.
#1. Call a social worker. They know what to do.
I wouldn’t assume he’s weaker. That is idiotic to assume that.
It wasn’t. The picture I saw had the crook of the elbow against the criminal’s throat; a chokehold would have used the forearm across the throat. That being said, I would have taken an eye, but I was taught to fight by an uncle that lived on the res in Oklahoma, so what do I know? lol
Also he could just whip out a knife or sharpened steel piece and start stabbing people, very quickly in a subway car.
RE: Throw a banana peel under is feet.
What if he slips, falls, hits his head on a steel handle, suffers a concussion and dies?
Allow me to show you how it's done properly...
Not just the dimwitted press and public, either...
Biden: Officers should train to shoot attackers ‘in the leg instead of the heart’
By Emily Jacobs
Crazy dudes can be wildly strong. I worked in a mental facility run by the INS for crazy illegals. We had a Mexican dude arrive who probable weighed 105 pounds and was a little over 5 feet tall. It took 4 guards, several of whom were twice his weight o get him in 4 point restraints. Med staff popped him with some calm juice.
In short, most people are stupid and will come after you with any weapon they can including information warfare.
Know this about your fellow human and prepare accordingly.
When the Vulcan nerve pinch was a viable option this choking was clearly excessive. Spock should be disappointed.
Anyone calls it a “choke hold” doesn’t need to be party to the argument.
Choke hold his leg?
That’s the expected result of course but it’s not a choke hold.
My favorite reply:
You’re why they have tampons in men’s restrooms now 😹
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