Posted on 05/09/2023 1:09:03 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
SAN DIEGO – The man whose livestream caught two Navy ships nearly colliding in the San Diego Bay has been ordered to take the cameras down.
The Navy Criminal Investigative Service says the camera’s livestream shows military activity in the area, but the camera owner says he has the right to film.
“It might be the San Diego Web Cam today, but if you don’t stand up and call foul, we don’t know what’s it going to be tomorrow,” said Barry Bahrami who runs a group called San Diego Web Cam which provides livestreams across the city.
It was Bahrami’s video that showed the near collision of two Navy ships at the San Diego Bay back in November. The incident is also commonly referred to as “Warship Chicken” which now stands at the center of a new controversy.
“Now we have government censorship simply out of spite because we showed something they didn’t like,” said Bahrami.
He said the National Park Service has removed two of his cameras at Cabrillo National Monument per the Navy’s request, citing the protection of military personnel.
“One thing that is distinguishable about this web cam company is that they were very careful not to film anything that might cause privacy issues,” explained FOX 5 Legal Analyst Wendy Patrick. “It’s also fueling the argument on why they want to know exactly why this request was made to take these cameras down,”
Running for nearly a decade, Bahrami said his cameras were removed just days after the Navy’s investigation findings were released last month.
(Excerpt) Read more at fox5sandiego.com ...
“NCIS recently expressed force protection concerns to the National Park Service related to the privately owned webcams. We look forward to continuing close coordination with NPS. The private webcams and YouTube channel provided 24-hour webcam monitoring of vessels and equities located aboard Naval Air Station North Island, including aircraft hangars and flight lines, Naval Base Point Loma submarine assets, and the tracking of military personnel working aboard Naval Base Coronado.”
Navy warships narrowly avoid colliding in San Diego Bay on 11/29/2022 … YouTube video link at:
That’s how it works in police states run by perverts... you don’t stop accidents by incompetents - you stop innocent citizens from noticing...
1. NCIS has not authority in this matter.
B. Do they have any idea how many hundreds of cameras are recording the same things? I am not even considering satellites and balloons.
If the cameras on public property, I guess the government, including the Navy, has a bit of a say over whether it shows things. That picture doesn’t show any thing beyond ships moving around out of context. If it’s a Camera on private property, that’s a whole different matter. Maybe the guy can go find himself a spot on private property, get permission to post it and be done with it.
I wonder if Leroy Jethro Gibbs would approve of this.
“Rule #37...”
Definitely requires a national security stamp. Whenever the government gets caught, the first response is to cover up malfeasance, corruption, stupidity, etc. with the National Security stamp.
“The private webcams and YouTube channel provided 24-hour webcam monitoring of vessels and equities located aboard Naval Air Station North Island...”
If it’s visible from public property, then anyone can film it. If the Navy doesn’t like that, then I suggest they build some bigger fences.
“If the cameras on public property, I guess the government, including the Navy, has a bit of a say over whether it shows things.”
Nah, legally, anything on public property, or easily visible from public property, means there is no expectation of privacy. That’s why people can record you with their cell phone when you are out in public and saying “I didn’t give you permission to film” is irrelevant.
Sighted Ships
Sank Webcam
The cameras were permanently mounted on NPS administered property. NPS is under no obligation to extend permission for fixed-mounted cameras in their parks.
A good lawyer might argue that past history constitutes a right by waiver but then you’re up against the Gubmint.
True, if it’s government property, they can remove the cameras.
RE: I wonder if Leroy Jethro Gibbs would approve of this.
His own fault for retiring and letting the Office Space guy make sure all the TPS reports have the new cover sheets. Then everything went downhill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy3rjQGc6lA
public means citizens own said national park.. its a 1st amendment issue, geez did the navy have an issue when the same web cams showed the ship that caught fire a few years ago??
The question is installing it permanently, on public lands. Not just walking on public lands and using it while you’re there.
If the park service gave this group permission to mount cameras, then the navy is in the wrong
Permission given is permission that can be taken away, as in this case. If his camera show real time view of Navy ship movements, maybe he shouldn’t be doing that. Just saying.
Cameras are on private property, pointing toward an area that is visible to the naked eye?
Nope. Not guilty.
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