The myth of systemic racism prevents black achievement in America

American Thinker ^ | 05/08/2023 | Pandra Selivanov

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "The myth of systemic racism prevents black achievement in America"

That is why they push it. "Achievement" is now a dirty word.

[wardaddy]

What you say is observationally correct but the implied conclusion is faulty

I lived in segregation as a kid

My dad knew civil war veterans as a boy

Blacks functioned far better in culture and families and religiously then than now with all this freedom and thirst for victimhood and preference

Young blacks with zero yoke on them whine like a windmill and destroy one another with zero humanity

Plus most of the women are fat

They functioned better under the control than now

Don’t ask me to explain or justify I just watched with my own eyes

Unlike most here I was immersed in it

One last note nobody here will like given how sensitive northern freepers are about their pets

But look around you other than good exceptional examples of achievement

Does anyone think black contributions to our culture has been positive or constructive

Not to me it hadn’t

It’s been corrosive and vulgar more than positive

I’m out of answers I just see what I’ve seen

I liked it better before and blacks were nicer

All the horrors my ancestors feared about black empowerment

Well it’s certainly come to pass in cities

The big question is why did my white ancestors fear black empowerment

I know the pc answer to keep people in chains rhetorically

But could have it have been more

Look around the world

Places slavery and colonialism never touched

Common observations

Again who knows really how to deal with this

[windsorknot]

[GOPJ]

In 1998, in California, Proposition 209 eliminated racial preferences in college admissions. UCLA was particularly hard hit, as it had been using massive racial preferences to favor admitting black students. However, once Proposition 209 eliminated the mismatch, blacks graduated from UCLA at the same rate as before, even though fewer blacks were admitted to the school. Black students were no longer patronized by the idea that they couldn’t handle education at an elite school without the benefit of government interference.

There are times people 'get' what's going on... that black citizens have been damaged by the pity parties white liberal 'elites' want to throw for them..

[Jim Noble]

The myth of systemic racism prevents black achievement in America

Yeah, that's it all right. /s

[newzjunkey]

It’s the prevailing attitude you see in the community, it’s what they tell each other. Some recognize this and comment about it.

Conditioned community members reject “white values” (according to the Smithsonian) that would get them ahead like timeliness, independence, the Protestant work ethic, and delayed gratification because it is taught that it is too much for them to handle but also acting white, that those things aren’t for them and won’t work for them anyway because they are sabotaged by systemic discrimination.

The community rejects the lessons of what generally leads to success in the mainstream culture with many turning to scheming, looking for side hustles, exploiting one another, becoming dependent on government and rejecting two parent households. The biggest system of racism is within the community itself. It’s a self-harming feedback loop. I suspect a fair number of community leaders know this but they exploit it for political power and financial reasons. It’s that exploitation I mentioned above. Politicians know it. Some activists are true believers and their faith in the narrative is used to distract from a lack of accountability.

The mentality of racism is alive and well but it’s kept alive by woke agitators and self-appointed community leaders. Self-reflection is hard work. Rejection of the lies that you have heard all your life about how you can’t get ahead because of the system is not easy to overcome. It’s like deprogramming cult members.

Democrats love misery and love legalization because it softens minds. If the black community called them on their lack of results with decades of failure, the black community would turn the corner almost overnight. They don’t believe in themselves. They don’t feel empowered to change their lives. It’s a horrendous thing to witness. They are still trained to see themselves as less than human, often treat one another the same. They are kept on mental plantations with lies.

They are afraid to leave because it’s their whole identity as African Americans. Reparations would do nothing but transfer wealth they would vanish overnight and be skimmed by fraudsters. Like Covid cash. The answer is for them to join mainstream America, see themselves in the red, white and blue rather than the Woke finesse of victimization, grievance and separatism.

[newzjunkey]

Not sure you understand the point

[The Great RJ]

Increasing segregation as is being done as part of the woke movement and the US public education system continues to fail Black students. Lack of parenting allows many Black kids to grow up feral in the streets. Instead of denigrate white achievement there should be more focus on the legitimate historic achievements of Blacks. It is sad that young Blacks have grown up on rap music and have never heard Duke Ellington, count Basie, Miles Davis or a host of other Black musicians

[Verginius Rufus]

Pandra's third example is having Cleopatra portrayed by a black actress. It seems to be a popular belief among black Americans that Cleopatra was black despite the lack of evidence (all of her known ancestors were white--one grandmother's identity is apparently unknown but it's only a possibility that she was native Egyptian, and even then may have been someone who would be considered white in our society).

Some of the ancient Egyptians might have been told to sit at the back of the bus in 1954 Birmingham, but they generally differentiated themselves from the populations further south who were definitely black.

[newzjunkey]

I wasn’t around in segregation but it seems like families were more stable then. Segregation was wrong then and wrong now but there’s concerted efforts by activists to return to segregation with black’s-only safe spaces on college campuses and so forth.

There’s a point of pride in being descended from slaves, honoring their experiences and having been uprooted from the mother continent but that’s not a reason to punish yourself and resist the freedoms and opportunities available in 2023. The old racists and power brokers were able to rebrand themselves and their ways. Today’s blacks are sabotaged by the Great Society policies and the excuses given to them for why they aren’t responsible for achievement in their own lives. The destruction of the family probably hurt them more.

If you look where colonialism didn’t reach there’s caste cultures and near slavery. Subjugation is ingrained in their psyches through culture. Until they throw off those chains, things won’t improve. Unfortunately we find ourselves in a war for American ideals. The Left is recruiting new members every day. Their identity politics and policies run counter to their stated goals. They are charlatans. It’s by design. Trump was a disruptor and he had to be destroyed.

[cymbeline]

“Black Americans are a hopeless, hapless, and oppressed race who need pity and handouts to succeed.”

Not hopeless, but hoping for too much in the form of handouts and too little self-awareness and self-improvement.

[Taxman]

Ping

[griswold3]

It’s like deprogramming cult members.
How true that is!

[sauropod]

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[wardaddy]

Your age

Defined by your indoctrination and curiosity

My age defined by indoctrination and empirical observation

Gaps in perception

I mean I would never know probably video games or phone tech like u do

And divides in how influence shaped us

It’s just life

I’ll be dead and people will still be arguing culture and politics

And we will continue to corrode

One major social evolution since my youth is how subsequent generations have discovered they are the moral betters of basically 99.9% of human history that came before them if discussing western civilization

My generation really didn’t have that and it’s a revolutionary evolution in my view and debilitating to cultural survivals

Yippies wanted change and found older people out of touch

The generation gap but this virtue signaling is fairly new

Another thing always bugs me is we treat all minorities race ethnic or religious but especially blacks like their fortunes fall or rise by the behavior of whites towards them

That’s a trap