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Why China & Its Trading Allies Are Well Placed To Topple The U.S. Dollar
New Statesman ^ | 05/07/2023 | Wolfgang Munchau

Posted on 05/07/2023 8:53:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 05/07/2023 8:53:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

In China’s dreams. It’s an economic factory nation - nothing more. Without the US trade they collapse.


2 posted on 05/07/2023 8:58:14 PM PDT by politicket
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To: SeekAndFind

Ever notice the same people who post about how the BRICS will take over the world are the same people who state that Russia is a victim of Ukraine and use the phrase “red pulled?” I hate those people.


3 posted on 05/07/2023 9:05:08 PM PDT by Clemenza
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To: Clemenza

Cmon, they are just so much smarter then the rest of us.


4 posted on 05/07/2023 9:08:16 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SeekAndFind

The US dollar ain’t being toppled, it’s a SUICIDE!

self inflicted disaster....


5 posted on 05/07/2023 9:19:29 PM PDT by Bobalu (There was always going to be a reckoning....... and here it is.)
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To: politicket

It’s already happening.

https://thecradle.co/article-view/24080/de-dollarization-kicks-into-high-gear


6 posted on 05/07/2023 9:42:37 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: SeekAndFind

I cannot see China ruling the world.

They spend a huge amount of time, effort and money stealing others’ ideas and technology.

A country that cannot lead in creativity and innovation cannot rule the world.


7 posted on 05/07/2023 9:51:05 PM PDT by Gnome1949
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Grow up


8 posted on 05/07/2023 9:56:04 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
It’s already happening.

No, actually it's not - except in these articles written by people who don't understand how debt-based economies work.

We are in the midst of global monetary deflation.

This means other countries can't get enough US dollars (Euro dollars to them) to trade with - which is a real economic danger, since places like China depend on massive export trade for their economic existence.

It's not that these countries don't want the US dollar (Eurodollar) - it's that they can't get their hands on enough of them.

That's why you're seeing side deals going on - in an attempt to move some trade through direct channels in an attempt to survive.

Pretty simple explanation - but these economic rags want to turn everything into American hate.

These are the same clowns how believe the Fed is going to pivot hard in the near future on interest rates - and that gold, silver, and oil are going to the moon.

Same 'ol song they've been singing for decades - not understanding the true nature of what "debt-based" even means and why the powers that be won't let it go away.

9 posted on 05/07/2023 10:20:34 PM PDT by politicket
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1/2 Looks like it, and the downward trajectory doesn’t seem to be abating, yet some use spin to avoid discussing it:

The numbers: the dollar share of global reserves was 73 percent in 2001, 55 percent in 2021, and 47 percent in 2022. The key takeaway is that last year, the dollar share slid 10 times faster than the average in the past two decades.

De-dollarization kicks into high gear
By Pepe Escobar (Posted Apr 29, 2023)

“... the U.S. dollar’s status as a global reserve currency is eroding. When corporate western media begins to attack the multipolar world’s de-dollarization narrative in earnest, you know the panic in Washington has fully set in.

The numbers: the dollar share of global reserves was 73 percent in 2001, 55 percent in 2021, and 47 percent in 2022. The key takeaway is that last year, the dollar share slid 10 times faster than the average in the past two decades.

Now it is no longer far-fetched to project a global dollar share of only 30 percent by the end of 2024, coinciding with the next U.S. presidential election.

The defining moment—the actual trigger leading to the Fall of the Hegemon—was in February 2022, when over $300 billion in Russian foreign reserves were “frozen” by the collective west, and every other country on the planet began fearing for their own dollar stores abroad. There was some comic relief in this absurd move, though: the EU “can’t find” most of it.

Now cue to some current essential developments on the trading front.

Over 70 percent of trade deals between Russia and China now use either the ruble or the yuan, according to Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov.

Russia and India are trading oil in rupees. Less than four weeks ago, Banco Bocom BBM became the first Latin American bank to sign up as a direct participant of the Cross-Border Interbank Payment System (CIPS), which is the Chinese alternative to the western-led financial messaging system, SWIFT.

China’s CNOOC and France’s Total signed their first LNG trade in yuan via the Shanghai Petroleum and Natural Gas Exchange.

The deal between Russia and Bangladesh for the construction of the Rooppur nuclear plant will also bypass the U.S. dollar. The first $300 million payment will be in yuan, but Russia will try to switch the next ones to rubles. ...”

https://mronline.org/2023/04/29/de-dollarization-kicks-into-high-gear/


2/2 *Nasdaq*
Petrodollar Dusk, Petroyuan Dawn: What Investors Need To Know
4/2/23

“During a three-day state visit, Chinese President Xi Jinping held friendly talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin in a show of unity, as both countries increasingly seek to position themselves as leaders of what they call a “multipolar world order,” one that challenges U.S.-centric alliances and agreements.

Among those agreements is the petrodollar, which has been in place for over 50 years.

In case you’re wondering, “petrodollars” are not a real currency. They’re simply dollars being used to trade oil. Early in the 1970s, the U.S. government provided economic aid to Saudi Arabia, its chief oil-producing rival, in exchange for assurances that Riyadh would price its crude exports exclusively in the U.S. dollar. In 1975, other members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) followed suit, and the petrodollar was born.

This had the immediate effect of strengthening the U.S. dollar. Since countries around the world had to have dollars on hand in order to buy oil (and other key commodities such as gold, also priced in dollars), the greenback became the world’s reserve currency, a status formerly enjoyed by the British pound, French franc and Dutch guilder.

All things must come to an end, however. We may be witnessing the end of the petrodollar as more and more countries, including China and Russia, are agreeing to make settlements in currencies other than the U.S. dollar. ...”

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/petrodollar-dusk-petroyuan-dawn:-what-investors-need-to-know


10 posted on 05/07/2023 10:51:34 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m reading with interest all articles and posts and appreciating those that are intelligent, non-propaganda (non-b.s.)


11 posted on 05/07/2023 11:46:04 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Prayers for America.)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Thank you for explaining all that history. I appreciate it, very much.


12 posted on 05/08/2023 12:29:13 AM PDT by RitaOK (WE ARE OCCUPIED. imo.... UNTIL WE FIGHT.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bye bye, don’t ever think your coming back


13 posted on 05/08/2023 1:16:36 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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Bkmk


14 posted on 05/08/2023 2:04:38 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: politicket

China is a nation that is collapsing- literally.

Go to You Tube and look up ‘’Tofu Dreg/ China Construction’’.

The real estate/construction industry is so corrupt in China that buildings literally collapse, sometimes without warning.

Entire multistory buildings made of such shoddy materials they literally collapse, sometimes killing and injuring dozens at a time.


15 posted on 05/08/2023 2:13:04 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: politicket

Why do you think the world needs a reserve currency at all?

It made sense before computers to have some means of international trade. But today, exchange rates are real-time and trade can be done in local currencies.

It is not about the Chinese Yuan (or any other) replacing the dollar.....it is about the dollar not being the reserve currency anymore.

The world would go back to trading in their local currencies or even gold with each other.

It will still be devastating to our economy.


16 posted on 05/08/2023 2:27:58 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Thank you. As I posted, the snarky posters who dismiss the dollar being replaced by some other currency are ignoring the fact that the world does not need a reserve currency at all.

This all started pre-computers and made trade easier.

Many world banks are buying up gold to back their currencies and they will simply trade with each other in their own currencies....or whichever one they agree upon.

Regardless, the day the dollar stops being the world’s reserve currency (this will happen over the course of a few years) the dollar will collapse in value.


17 posted on 05/08/2023 2:32:44 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: politicket
In China’s dreams. It’s an economic factory nation - nothing more. Without the US trade they collapse.

That is the most idiotic globalist screed that I've ever read.

18 posted on 05/08/2023 2:46:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Trading in non-dollar currencies is fraught with risk right now. It may take years — even decades — for that risk to be diminished.

If (for example) Brazil and China conduct trade between themselves and Brazil accepts payment in Chinese yuan, the big question is: What can Brazil do with this money? Unless Chinese assets have value to outside investors, their currency will have limited appeal as a mechanism for international trade.

India has faced this problem forever. Even Indians don’t want to do business in rupees, if they can avoid it.

19 posted on 05/08/2023 2:47:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Vendome

i don’t get your comment.


20 posted on 05/08/2023 2:48:18 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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