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Ukraine says no sign of Russia’s Wagner force Bakhmut withdrawal
Aljazeera ^ | May 6, 2023

Posted on 05/06/2023 12:23:16 AM PDT by McGruff

The Ukrainian military has brushed aside claims by the head of Russia’s Wagner mercenary force that he will withdraw his fighters from the battle for the Ukrainian city of Bakhmut, saying the mercenaries were holding firm and receiving reinforcements.

Ukraine’s military said on Friday that Wagner fighters were reinforcing positions in Bakhmut with the likely intention to try and seize the destroyed city before Russia marks the Soviet Union’s victory in World War II on May 9.

“We are now seeing them pulling (fighters) from the entire offensive line where the Wagner fighters were, they are pulling (them) to the Bakhmut direction,” Ukraine’s Deputy Defence Minister Hanna Maliar said on Ukrainian television.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Ukraine
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Who to believe.
1 posted on 05/06/2023 12:23:16 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff
Who to believe.

I believe Prigozhin will be forced to withdrawal from Wagner. I think the Kremlin has grown tired of his act.

2 posted on 05/06/2023 12:34:01 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: McGruff

“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” ~ Sun Tzu, The Art of War


3 posted on 05/06/2023 12:34:13 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: McGruff

Hindustan Times

Putin’s new ‘killer’ anti-Ukraine plan ready; Here’s how Russia will fulfill Wagner’s demands

“... On Friday, Wagner Group Chief Yevgeny Prigozhin criticised the Russian Defence Ministry for insufficient ammunition supplies to Bakhmut. Acting swiftly on battlefield demands, the Vladimir Putin administration will be sending hundreds of arms and equipment to its troops in Ukraine.”

https://youtu.be/ll12zOQutec


4 posted on 05/06/2023 12:41:05 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Especially after capturing 97% of Bakhmut. The Wagners can take some R&R and have the Russian army take the other three percent.


5 posted on 05/06/2023 4:03:12 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: McGruff

I believe that the Ukrainian troops still in Bahkmut are learning about “ Thermite Incendiery shells”. Am thinking that they are pretty much done if that keeps up. The US did this to a dozen or so German cities in WW2, nasty stuff.


6 posted on 05/06/2023 4:15:27 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! )
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To: Tom Tetroxide
Putin Ally Vows to Send Troops to Bakhmut to Replace Wagner's Forces

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-vows-send-troops-bakhmut-replace-wagners-forces-1798722

7 posted on 05/06/2023 4:28:26 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: foundedonpurpose

thermite is OK now?

so you’re saying it would be OK for Ukraine to use thermite on, say, Russian centers in Crimea? or Russian crowds at the May 9th “celebrations”?

hey, fair is fair ...


8 posted on 05/06/2023 4:28:41 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: canuck_conservative

Just reporting what’s happening, no dog in the fight. Why not ask the US government if it’s ok?


9 posted on 05/06/2023 4:34:58 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! )
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To: foundedonpurpose

Russia started this war by invading a sovereign country, when their bogus attempted takeover using a stooge stealth candidate (Yanukovich) didn’t work

Russia introduced kidnapping of children

Russia introduced bombing of apartment buildings with missiles

Russia introduced thermite to the battlefield

** at every step of this war, RUSSIA has been the one to recklessly escalate things **

guess it’s yet another sign of how desperate and impatient Russia is to just end this stupid little “3-day invasion” already, LOL


10 posted on 05/06/2023 4:44:25 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: canuck_conservative; foundedonpurpose

Thermite? You mean Phosphorous?


11 posted on 05/06/2023 5:03:42 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: McGruff
Prigozhin said they would withdraw on May 10
12 posted on 05/06/2023 5:16:24 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: canuck_conservative

You sound butthurt (as usual)...why don’t you get off your cushion go fight for your homeland?


13 posted on 05/06/2023 5:47:03 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: canuck_conservative

You can use it but not purposely on civilians.

They know that and you don’t.


14 posted on 05/06/2023 5:50:23 AM PDT by dforest
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To: McGruff

Some of the Wagner mercenary force are in Sudan slaughtering


15 posted on 05/06/2023 6:07:03 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: McGruff

Feinting one thing and doing another is standard military tactics.


16 posted on 05/06/2023 6:13:11 AM PDT by elpadre (nd )
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To: McGruff

Putin and his minions continue to shame the Russian nation.


17 posted on 05/06/2023 6:56:51 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Yo-Yo

“Thermite? Phosphorous?”

Okay, I did a little research as I know little regarding military weaponry. Hope this info gives some answers:

1. Thermite is a mixture of iron oxide (basically, rust) and aluminum; it is among the most widely used incendiary materials. Thermite burn temp is 2200°C/4000°F.

The thermite reaction is as follows: Fe2O3 + 2Al → Al2O3 + 2Fe. Thermite melts most metals “like a torch melts ice”: melts or destroys all the armor and trucks, tanks, metal, wood.

2. White phosphorus weapons use in civilian areas is considered as a war crime: Article 35 of Protocol I of the Geneva Conventions rules that any weapon that causes “superfluous or unnecessary suffering” is outlawed. The indiscriminate firing of white phosphorus constitutes a war crime.

White phosphorus is viewed as much worse than just because other than a flair, there is no real reason to use as it will not melt anything but homes and people. The buildings and the armor will still be there, just looks burned up like someone set off a bunch of fireworks on top of everything.

Drone footage released by the UKrainian military, shows parts of the city – the scene of some of the bloodiest fighting of the war – ablaze as white phosphorus rains down.

White phosphorus is a solid which burns readily in air. WP burn temp is 800°C/1500°F. It can be safely handle under water, but will burst into intense flame once dry.

Phosphorus dispersed by high explosives has tremendous potential to cause injury, often embedding itself (in small pieces) in the skin of its victims and continues to burn.

Phosphorus can be used as an incendiary weapon to maim, poison or kill indiscriminately and is known to cause instant scarring of the lungs, heart, liver and kidneys and to be capable of burning through muscle to the bone, often causing severe second and third-degree burns that typically require skin grafts.


18 posted on 05/06/2023 7:08:45 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: McGruff

I think that Wagner has been saying for a while that they would pull out. My suspicion is that this new claim is intended to cause the Ukrainians to delay some movement, since they would naturally have a better chance of success if the Russian line was thinner. All the while the Russians would probably be fortifying their positions and awaiting arms shipments.


19 posted on 05/06/2023 7:23:58 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Haley 2024)
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To: McGruff

Russian man speaks with a forked tongue, pay attention to what they do, not to what they say.


20 posted on 05/06/2023 7:33:27 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Haley 2024)
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