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Wagner Threatens to Pull Out of Ukraine in Latest Internal Russia Spat
WSJ ^ | 5/5/23 | Thomas Groves, Isabelle Coles

Posted on 05/05/2023 4:50:08 AM PDT by jdsteel

The leader of Russian paramilitary group Wagner threatened to withdraw his troops from the front line in Ukraine, citing growing losses, in a move that raises fresh tensions between Moscow’s military leaders ahead of an expected offensive by Kyiv’s forces.

Wagner founder Yevgeny Prigozhin said his forces would leave their positions in the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut on May 10 after delivering an expletive-riddled broadside against Moscow’s military leadership, which he accused of withholding ammunition.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: bakhmut; gerasimov; globalistpropaganda; putin; russia; shoigu; ukraine; wagner
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1 posted on 05/05/2023 4:50:08 AM PDT by jdsteel
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To: jdsteel

Now that Prigozhin and his Musicians have chased the Zelenskites out of Bakhmut, it’s time for Putin to replace him with a new and improved criminal. One who charges less and makes less noise.


2 posted on 05/05/2023 4:57:02 AM PDT by JonPreston
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Oh yeah? Then why is Prizghozin so angry and melting down then? That doesn't smell like victory at all.

VIDEO

3 posted on 05/05/2023 5:09:15 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

Sorry, Putin needs a new criminal in charge of the Wagoneers. Less noisy. Less expansive. One who is better able to lead his mental cases and jail birds into what remains of the Ukie army.


4 posted on 05/05/2023 5:17:50 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Timber Rattler

Wow, what little remains of the Ukie army is doing all this hurt to Wagner/Russia?

If one reads the pro-agression posters here, all is going swimmingly for Russia...


5 posted on 05/05/2023 5:21:24 AM PDT by dominusobiscum (A Christians true heart can be revealed by how they treat others anonymously on discussion forums.)
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To: jdsteel

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6 posted on 05/05/2023 5:24:19 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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pro-agression posters = Anti-Neocons

You're welcome, ReAnimator

7 posted on 05/05/2023 5:26:47 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: jdsteel

I wonder if he thinks he needs Wagner as an intact force to protect his interests in a chaotic Moscow he foresees in the near future. Perhaps he sees a post-Putin political world where any major player lacking at least a minor army under their personal command will lose everything.


8 posted on 05/05/2023 5:37:51 AM PDT by conejo99
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Could be. He may think “its over” and is doing some CYA.


9 posted on 05/05/2023 5:48:31 AM PDT by dominusobiscum (A Christians true heart can be revealed by how they treat others anonymously on discussion forums.)
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10 posted on 05/05/2023 6:06:00 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: dominusobiscum

I feel sorry for any Free Republic members who cannot see that some of those posters have horrible intent they are obviously doing this for some kind of propaganda mission.

I’m not talking about every person here who rails about the Ukraine war. But the worst of them will lie with a straight face no matter what the news is.

Those individuals are up to something and that’s why I call them out.


11 posted on 05/05/2023 6:09:26 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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But you told us that the Ukrainian army was obliterated at bachmut. You said the Ukrainian losses were so great not the Russian side in fact you said all Ukrainian offensives are just the total destruction of the Ukrainian army.

But I have confronted you in the past that no matter how bad the news gets for Russia you will come on here with new lies because something is seriously wrong with you you are not a good person you are not an honest person and you have an agenda here which is completely false and meant to mislead good conservatives.

And you despise America and wish America to suffer great harm.

Luckily I’m not the only one here who has warned people about your type.


12 posted on 05/05/2023 6:13:08 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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I agree. The psychology of people, or the warped state thereof is fascinating.

How it is that some people cannot admit being wrong about anything? These people have been spectaculary wrong many times yet they double down. Maybe its narcissim?

The pro-agression folks here are painting a rosier picture than even the Russian media.
I soon expect Prighozin and Girken to be called neocons before too long lol!


13 posted on 05/05/2023 6:26:49 AM PDT by dominusobiscum (A Christians true heart can be revealed by how they treat others anonymously on discussion forums.)
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To: jdsteel

“citing growing losses”

Bakhmut “meat grinder” propaganda backfires.


14 posted on 05/05/2023 6:45:43 AM PDT by Boogieman
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But you told us that the Ukrainian army was obliterated at bachmut.

It's spelled Bakhmut, you idiot.

15 posted on 05/05/2023 6:47:24 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: dominusobiscum

“How it is that some people cannot admit being wrong about anything?”

Narcissists cannot admit they are wrong. The reason is that, despite the confident bluff they put out towards the world, they have extraordinarily fragile egos that they must always try to protect. If they feel they have been shamed or embarassed in front of others, it’s like a physical injury to them, and they will lash out irrationally.


16 posted on 05/05/2023 6:50:10 AM PDT by Boogieman
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“It’s spelled Bakhmut, you idiot.”

The “idiot” is probably the person who doesn’t realize there are no “accepted” spellings when transliterating from Cyrillic to the Latin alphabet. Hence “Zelinsky”/ “Zelinskyy”, “Kiev”/”Kyiv”, etc. Phonetic spellings are just as acceptable as any other until Slavs get together and agree on a system.


17 posted on 05/05/2023 6:53:13 AM PDT by Boogieman
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The “idiot” is probably the person who doesn’t realize there are no “accepted” spellings

Documentation please.

18 posted on 05/05/2023 7:00:52 AM PDT by JonPreston
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“There are a number of distinct and competing standards for the romanization of Russian Cyrillic, with none of them having received much popularity, and, in reality, transliteration is often carried out without any consistent standards.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Russian


19 posted on 05/05/2023 7:03:14 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Case in point. Cant admit that he is wrong about the UA army being obliterated in backmoot. No. Lets attack the spelling.

I never had a problem admitting I was wrong about something. It is humbling, but being humbled on occasion is good for you. Keeps the pride and ego in check.


20 posted on 05/05/2023 7:05:50 AM PDT by dominusobiscum (A Christians true heart can be revealed by how they treat others anonymously on discussion forums.)
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