Posted on 05/05/2023 4:43:26 AM PDT by thegagline
Former President Donald Trump called the infamous 2005 “Access Hollywood” tape of himself “very old news” when questioned by lawyers for rape accuser E. Jean Carroll, according to a video of his deposition played in Manhattan federal court Thursday.
The jury overseeing Carroll’s ongoing civil trial against Trump, 76, on Thursday morning heard — for the second time — the notorious recording of the 45th president saying he would grab women “by the p—y” and they let him because he’s a star.
“This is very old news, fully litigated,” Trump told Carroll’s lawyer Roberta Kaplan at the Oct. 19, 2022 deposition, adding it was “Locker room talk.” *** During the deposition, Trump launched a series of barbs at Carroll and Kaplan including calling the former New York Magazine advice columnist “a nut job,” “a sick person” and calling her attorney “a political operative” as she was questioning him.
“This is a hoax too,” Trump said in the video. “This is a ridiculous situation. She a liar and she is a sick person in my opinion, really sick. Something is really wrong with her.” *** Kaplan grilled Trump about publicly implying that his accusers are not physically his type.
Trump told Kaplan without prompting, “you wouldn’t be a choice of mine either. I would not under any circumstances have any interest in you.”
In deposition video, Trump was also shown a photo of Carroll whom he mistook for his ex-wife Marla Maples.
Carroll’s lawyers said during opening statements last week that this moment dispels Trump’s claim that their client wasn’t his “type.” ***
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It will be interesting to see how that grabs the jury.
I can see the judge’s instructions to the jury: ‘If you think that Trump is guilty of being a bad person, you must convict, ‘cause he probably did it.Don’t let any facts get in your way of a guilty verdict, ‘cause he gots lots of dough, and this poor ol’ woman should have some of it. Don’t be impartial and worry about facts, Trump deserves to pay for his mean tweets.’
fI can’t believe this can happen. There is no evidence he did this. You are presumed innocent. How can you convict someone, anyone when it’s your word against theirs?
Still no date on the rape. Articles say mid 1990’s, as if asking a alien encounter incident, or watching bigfoot cross the road on a abandoned logging trail. Except, people would probably know those exact times. Her worst day ever and she doesn’t know when it occurred.
I thought in the audio he said if you are rich you can grab p, not that he actually did grab p. No?
That’s how I remember it too.
Had a leftist friend who was fixated on D.Trump’s statement about “grabbing them by the pussy” and this cuck(yeah...knew his significant other) brought it up at every conversation. I usually just kept my mouth shut and let him rail until he ran out of steam and the subject changed. But one day in the middle of his rant I asked him if he’d ever played sports and listened to the locker room talk in an effort to point out that it wasn’t anything other than that. Not only had he not been in a locker room since 6th grade but he got pissed that I even asked him the question. That was back when D.Trump was running for president. We haven’t talked since and I learned a great lesson...it’s pointless to have a conversation with the typical liberal because they already know everything.
Presumption of innocence applies to a criminal case. This is a civil case. That also means that the standard of proof is preponderance of the evidence (50% + 1) rather than beyond a reasonable doubt, and a unanimous verdict may not be required. So if the plaintiff can persuade a majority of the jury that it is more likely than not that the incident occurred, Trump will lose. Essential, this is a case where Trump will have to prove it didn’t happen, rather than the plaintiff proving that it did. Not fair, but the reality.
I doubt the judge would use the words “convict” and “guilty” as this is a civil trial.
Access Hollywood tape: If Trump gets a guilty verdict, it will be overturned because the judge allowed the tape in as some form of evidence. However, a guilty verdict means evidence, in that trial, is not a factor in the decision.
And if a woman says she was raped and can’t even narrow the event down to the day, much less the year, then she is lying.
He has to persuade more than a majority of the jury.
If an attorney can’t find five biased leftists jurors to convict Trump in Manhattan, he should be disbarred…
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As has been pointed out, there will not be a “guilty” verdict since this is a civil trial, not a criminal trial. He is actually not being sued for rape, but for defamation. The Access Hollywood tape is being used to imply Trump has a less than serious attitude toward sexual assault, making it easier for the jury to believe he could have assaulted Carroll. If they believe he assaulted Carroll, then they will conclude he defamed her by denying the assault, saying she was lying and calling her crazy. A very different evidentiary standard applies in a civil case than in a criminal case. Trump also did himself no favors in his deposition.
It depends. Since this is a federal trial, it is possible that a verdict would not have to be unanimous, though both sides would usually have to agree. But even then, getting 6 people (the number of jurors on a typical jury in a federal civil case) to agree that it is more likely than not that he defamed her is not that high of a bar to clear, especially in New York.
“It will be interesting to see how that grabs the jury.”
Right by the p****!
And if a woman says she was raped and can’t even narrow the event down to the day, much less the year, then she is lying.
*******
I haven’t been following this farce very closely.
Carroll says it happened in 1995 or 1996.(Great attention to detail)
She had at least one phony, testify that Carroll told her this story.
Did the phony specify when the allegation happened? Or is it a 1995 or 1996 deal also?
This defamation suit is a travesty, it should’ve been thrown out, but it gives Trump’s enemies in the media a chance to talk about a “rape trial.”
Which is why it was allowed to proceed. All funded by a progressive donor named Reid Hoffman.
You seem to like this crap.
Why?
“I thought in the audio he said if you are rich you can grab p, not that he actually did grab p. No?”
You are CORRECT!
“that’s when you grab them by the pussy”
Correct, not that he actually did.
Depends what your definition of “grab” is. Lovingly caress? Massage? Stimulate?
In that case women love being grabbed.
Trump is right, locker room talk. Guy talk. Nothing to see here.
How would ANY OF YOU would want your private sexual conversations divulged in public? I understand that women are WORSE than men when it comes to such talk!
“In deposition video, Trump was also shown a photo of Carroll whom he mistook for his ex-wife Marla Maples.”
Hmmmmmmm, did they choose a photo that they knew looked like Marla Maples? Was it photoshopped to make her look even more like Marla?
A set up!
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