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Time Is Running Out for a Negotiated Settlement in Ukraine
Newsweek ^ | 5/3/23 | Michael Goeffler

Posted on 05/03/2023 5:53:23 PM PDT by delta7

Meanwhile, the war is rapidly depleting NATO's own weapons stocks, fostering a dangerous alliance between Russia and China and costing the West support in the global south. In Ukraine itself, the number of homeless, widows, orphans, and amputees grows daily. Clearly Ukraine, Russia and NATO all need an off ramp. What matters now is not agreed preconditions for a settlement, but a clear-eyed acceptance of the need to start negotiating an end to a war that is destroying Ukraine in the hope of weakening Russia.

Russia has long felt threatened by NATO's creeping expansion ….

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: michaelgoeffler; newsweak; war
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Finally, reality sets in, and by a left leaning major newsgroup.Their map hopefully shows the post war Ukraine, not quite carved up like a Turkey, but enough to insure NATO’s encroachment is checked and Ukraine is effectively demilitarized ( and denazified).
1 posted on 05/03/2023 5:53:23 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

The premises of this article are nonsense.
First, Russia launched a war to conquer Ukraine. There was no war launched to “weaken Russia”.

What the author desperately wants is something to stop the Ukraine counter offensive.

And just possibly more Ukrainian gains will enhance the chance for peace talks.


2 posted on 05/03/2023 5:58:10 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: delta7

But our Baghdad Bobs here will tel you Ukraine is winning.


3 posted on 05/03/2023 6:00:43 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: delta7

They were working toward a negotiated settlement last April, six weeks after the SMO started, but the US & UK scuttled it. Hundreds of thousands of deaths later, the West is suddenly pretending it’s a good idea. Shame on all of these “leaders.” We’ve all suffered one way or another since Joke purposely did nothing to stop it from happening.


4 posted on 05/03/2023 6:05:29 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Let’s Go, Brandon! )
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To: delta7

Are the Russians trying to take Odessa? Wasn’t Luhansk and Donetsk the part they wanted? I don’t remember them saying they claimed Odessa.


5 posted on 05/03/2023 6:08:04 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: delta7

Too late. They have now labeled Kiev as terrorist and won’t negotiate they said and upping the ante on weapons used. Not going to be good.


6 posted on 05/03/2023 6:09:47 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: delta7

At this point, I don’t have a clue what is going on in Russia and Ukraine.

My Grandfather was born in Kiev but considered himself Russian. It seems that a few areas of Ukraine still feel the same.

I think both sides are feeding us B.S. and a lot of our money is getting laundered.

Wonder what “The Big Guy’s” cut is?


7 posted on 05/03/2023 6:11:53 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: delta7

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8 posted on 05/03/2023 6:13:48 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: delta7

The same 🤡s that have US $31 trillion in debt are running this war and since we haven’t won a war since 1945, expect trouble ahead.


9 posted on 05/03/2023 6:14:41 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: delta7

Our resident female Ukraine Propaganda Thread Poster won’t like this article.


10 posted on 05/03/2023 6:17:42 PM PDT by tennmountainman ( Less Lindell CONS, More AZ Style Audits)
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To: Williams

Maybe your premise is all wrong.
The Azov Nazis started it all by shelling ethnic Russians in eastern Ukrainian ten years ago.


11 posted on 05/03/2023 6:18:52 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: delta7

It is WWIII after all.


12 posted on 05/03/2023 6:21:08 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: JonPreston

Who’s “we” you’re no American.


13 posted on 05/03/2023 6:22:32 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

?


14 posted on 05/03/2023 6:23:05 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: McGruff

No one told you Ukraine is winning.
There’s something pathological about you Ukraine haters.


15 posted on 05/03/2023 6:25:11 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: JonPreston

Yeah you heard me.


16 posted on 05/03/2023 6:25:36 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

I didn’t hear you, we’re typing at each other. what are you talking about ?


17 posted on 05/03/2023 6:27:38 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Bulwyf
Newsweek has been one of the biggest cheerleaders for Ukraine during this war. Why the change of heart? It could be because they know that Ukraine lost the majority of their most experienced fighters. They know the offensive can't proceed with the depleted state of Ukrainian air defenses. We know Newsweek isn't talking about negotiations because of all the Ukrainian widows and amputees. They don't care about them.
18 posted on 05/03/2023 6:29:46 PM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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To: JonPreston

You are an anti American.


19 posted on 05/03/2023 6:32:36 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: delta7

Billions down the crapper.


20 posted on 05/03/2023 6:35:54 PM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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