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To: BroJoeK; DiogenesLamp; x; IrishBrigade
“Of course, you realize, don't you, that Thomas Jefferson's “Democratic” party got its name because Jefferson was all in favor of expanding the voter rolls to include not just property owners — which had enfranchised women and freed-blacks — but all men “free, white and 21”. Jefferson's new laws which expanded the vote to all adult men also disenfranchised property owning women and African Americans.”

You contend that Jefferson was “all in favor of expanding the voter rolls and in the same sentence include something about enfranchising women and freed blacks.”

In the very next sentence you state Jefferson was responsible for disenfranchising women and African Americans.

Enfranchise and disenfranchise are not the same thing. They are opposites.

67 posted on 05/05/2023 6:45:19 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem; DiogenesLamp; x; IrishBrigade
jeffersondem: "You contend that Jefferson was 'all in favor of expanding the voter rolls' and in the same sentence include something about enfranchising women and freed blacks.
In the very next sentence you state Jefferson was responsible for disenfranchising women and African Americans.

Enfranchise and disenfranchise are not the same thing.
They are opposites
."

Not if you're a Democrat. 😂

The original laws of most states in, say, 1800 required voters to be property owners.
In some states that also enfranchised well-off property owning women and freed-blacks to vote.
Such voters were likely to support the party of the Constitution, the Federalists.

The genius of Jeffersonians was to campaign for universal suffrage, for any man "free, white and 21".
These added millions of Big City immigrants, who did not own property, to Democrat voter rolls and began the Democrats' alliance of Big City immigrants (i.e., Tammany Hall) with globalized Big Business (i.e., King Cotton) and poor rural whites.

And, genius of political geniuses, the very same laws which added more poor men, "free, white and 21" also revoked the franchise from property owning women and freed-blacks.

In military terms, that's called "shaping the battlefield", to improve your side's chances of victory.
I don't know what the political term for it is, maybe Donald Trump would call it rigging or stealing elections?

Whatever it's called, Democrats have long been masters of it and Republicans, generally, have no clue what's hitting them.

Here is one description of Tammany Hall in New York City:


68 posted on 05/07/2023 4:54:23 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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