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To: Allegra
Allegra: "You’re calling me a Russian propagandist just because I don’t support sending billions of our tax dollars and a good chunk of our arsenal to a mincing little grifter just because he demands it? "

No, of course not, but if I can identify Russian propaganda coming from a poster named "Allegra", then what am I to conclude?

The truth is that Ukraine has requested what they think they need to defeat Vlad the Invader's orcs in Ukraine.
The US and dozens of other countries have tried to fill those requests.

Allegra: "I do not support the Biden crime family’s money laundering operation."

First, there is no evidence that Biden or anybody else is corruptly "laundering" money through Ukraine.
Second, it seems to me that the entire Biden family should get long sentences behind bars, but that is irrelevant to Vlad the Invader's orcs in Ukraine.

Allegra: "What is it with you Ukrainians that you align those of us who are against our nation’s resources feeding this mess with being supportive of Russia?"

I have no connections to Ukraine, but I did "stand guard" in the US Army, in West Germany, for three years in the 1970s, to prevent the Old Soviets from doing in Germany what they are today doing in Ukraine.
The truth about Russia is that they are bullies who respect military strength, and can smell weakness the same way, in nature, scavengers can smell a rotting corps from many miles away.

As for your question, one iron-clad immutable law of human nature was first expressed by philosopher Edmund Burke, then reformulated more succinctly by John Stuart Mill:

quoting BJK: "...pro-Russians almost always post outrageous lies, while pro-Ukrainians try their best to stick to the truth."

Allegra: "ROFL! That’s some CNN-level opining there.
I’d even go as far to say that it falls into the “outrageous lie” category.
But, you’re certainly entitled to your opinion."

All Russian propaganda is lies, and much of it has been repeated by posters on Free Republic threads.
That's a fact, regardless of how much you wish to deny it.

Allegra: "That was amusing for a minute, but I don’t mire myself in conversations with those who line up with the left. I learned a long time ago the futility of such an endeavor."

It was radical Democrats in the late 1960s who first abandoned the old US doctrines of "containment" and "MAD" toward the old Soviet Union and China's CCP.
Conservative Republicans like Ronald Reagan held fast to the doctrines and with them defeated the old Soviet Union.

Since then many conservatives have begun to think the old doctrines are obsolete, even in the face of rising threats to peace from both Russia and China's CCP.
But remember this: the old doctrines of "containment" and "MAD" are only "obsolete" so long as Russia and China remain peaceful and law-abiding.
Today they are neither, and so it is time to look at conserving, preserving and reviving the old doctrines, with our allies.

84 posted on 05/02/2023 2:13:12 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK

LOL - your whole post is so ridiculous, narrow-minded and full of leftist lies and gaslighting crap, I’m not going to waste anymore time on it. As I said before, I won’t get mired in discussions with leftists. I know how they operate; I used to attempt it before I learned.

Have a nice day and thank you for your service.


90 posted on 05/02/2023 6:48:41 AM PDT by Allegra
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