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Putin’s Dream Weapon: Meet the MiG-41 6th Generation Fighter-(mach 5)
1945 via msn ^ | 5/1/2023 | Brent M. Eastwood

Posted on 04/30/2023 10:48:33 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

Meet the MiG-41: Russia has plans for a 6th generation fighter to keep up with the United States and China.

But don’t hold your breath.

Western sanctions are keeping aviation components and microprocessors in short supply in Russia. The MiG-41 next generation fighter could be a bridge too far with a lack of money and resources to develop it fully.

There is a war on, and priority is with the army that is more focused on the building of tanks and the air force striving for more stand-off missiles. The MiG-41 may never make it to fruition, but let’s take a look at what Russia is planning to get a better idea about what a next-generation fighter means for Moscow.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mig41; vaporware
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To: RomanSoldier19

The futuristic red painted rolling ladder is a nice touch.


21 posted on 05/01/2023 1:43:03 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: SaveFerris
“Your bosses thought you might need these. They got them from a MiG-25 they ‘borrowed’ from Syria.”

I read Mig Pilot by Victor Belenko. I vaguely remember him saying, that the Mig 25, was clocked at Mach 3.2, I think it was somewhere in the Middle East. What they didn’t tell people, was that when the aircraft got down, they had to change out the engines, because they were essentially destroyed.

22 posted on 05/01/2023 2:07:20 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: Mark17

Heh, he made other claims, like SR-71s would make lazy circles to toy with MiG pilots.

Which of course, is silly considering the high-value and rarity of the aircraft. Not to mention the complicated logistics of refueling.

I once asked a KC-10 boom operator how they did it (though it was probably KC-135). He said we draw from the same tanks.

I was like, no, you’re not capable of burning JP-7. The SR-71 was about 3 years from being retired at that point.

Maybe no KC-10s were involved in refueling the SR-71?


23 posted on 05/01/2023 2:14:17 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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[I once asked a KC-10 boom operator how they did it (though it was probably KC-135).]

though it was probably KC-135s that did most, if not all, of the refuelings.

They guy I spoke with was definitely KC-10 crew as they were standing outside of their aircraft.


24 posted on 05/01/2023 2:16:51 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Mark17

It is an urban myth. Engines aren’t the problem, the speed limitations are mostly to prevent the overheating of the fuel and deformation of the airframe.


25 posted on 05/01/2023 3:01:35 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: clearcarbon
I recall SR-71s tended to run a little warm at high speeds. That must require a pretty rugged stealth coating.

SR-71s were made of titanium (approx. 85%) used mostly on components that were exposed to high temperatures and polymer composite materials (15%).

26 posted on 05/01/2023 3:02:46 AM PDT by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failure)
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To: SaveFerris

KC135Q were the tankers for the SR71. Special fuel.


27 posted on 05/01/2023 3:04:26 AM PDT by brooklin
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To: NorseViking

I don’t know anything about that. I was just going off what the Mig Pilot said in his book. Maybe the aircraft got over stressed too. I don’t know.


28 posted on 05/01/2023 3:13:19 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: brooklin

Exactly.

I figured no KC-10 was ever involved.

I forgot about that designation for that version of the 135. Thanks.

Gotta carry that JP-7 separate from the JP-4 that the 135 used.


29 posted on 05/01/2023 3:18:05 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: NorseViking
According to an unreliable source:

The single-seat MiG-25 could achieve high speed, altitude and rate of climb; however, it lacked maneuverability at interception speeds and was difficult to fly at low altitudes. The MiG-25's speed was normally limited to Mach 2.83, but it could reach a maximum speed of Mach 3.2 or more with the risk of engine damage.

My guess is that the inlet ramps would not close enough (reverses venturi effect) and the speed of the air at the turbine blades is supersonic and not subsonic.

The supersonic air could cause turbine blade damage or possible compressor stalls at high mach.

The deformation of the airframe that you mentioned would most likely be damage to the radome.

30 posted on 05/01/2023 3:41:01 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: FtrPilot; Mark17

It can technically fly faster than Mach 3.2.
If you have been in the cockpit, there is a fuel temperature warning light.
You are supposed to drop speed once it is on.
I think Belenko made up the engine story for se reason.


31 posted on 05/01/2023 4:16:40 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: RomanSoldier19

Took me a few minutes to figure that pic’s plane structure; too many things in the pic. Need more coffee.


32 posted on 05/01/2023 4:25:15 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: dfwgator

Bkmk


33 posted on 05/01/2023 4:35:04 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: noiseman

Like old man sex. All thrust, not much lift.


34 posted on 05/01/2023 4:43:13 AM PDT by steve8714 (Evidently the Oxford comma is racist, sexist, or homophobic. You decide which.)
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To: noiseman
...wouldn’t even be capable of Mach 1. Look at the straight as a board wings! And the equally unswept horizontal stabilizer.

The USAF X-15 which reached a speed of Mach 6.7:


35 posted on 05/01/2023 4:51:53 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits

That was a rocket plane. No jet engines. I’m no pilot, but I had a plastic model of one as kid.


36 posted on 05/01/2023 5:06:00 AM PDT by telescope115 (My feet are on the ground, and my head is in the stars. A Man, and proud of it!)
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To: telescope115

Whether ramjet, scram jet, pulse jet, or rocket engines, the wings and vertical stabilizer would not have to be more swept than those of the X-15.


37 posted on 05/01/2023 5:13:20 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: dfwgator

“You must learn to think in Russian.”


Step 1: Acquire liberal supply of cheap plastic bottled Vodka made in China with war themed labels.

Step 2: Have large amounts of cash for all necessary bribes.

Step 3: Secure ‘protective’ services.

Step: 4 know who you can steal from;
A. Is the party better connected than you or above you in rank? don’t steal.

B. Is the party lower than you or weaker? Steal.

B1. In the case of stealing from A, make sure your health benefits are paid in full, stay on lower floors of buildings, watch out for men in overcoats with umbrellas, hire food taster.

Step 5: Lodge yourself in some niche that precludes any military service or at least makes you too valuable to higher ups to be sent to the front.

Step 6: Congratulations!! You have completed the course and can now think in Russian.

Step 7: If your higher up is sent to the front, take out more life insurance, pack your bags, buy all necessary PPE like armored vest plates, helmet (to bribe officers for things like a complete fitting uniform, boots with no holes, a rifle without rust, and bullets), chose the floral arrangements and marker for your grave, and await the summons.


38 posted on 05/01/2023 5:17:06 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Got it. 🙂


39 posted on 05/01/2023 5:20:39 AM PDT by telescope115 (My feet are on the ground, and my head is in the stars. A Man, and proud of it!)
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To: clearcarbon

You could fry an egg with the heat coming off the quartz cockpit glass.


40 posted on 05/01/2023 5:26:17 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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