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Disney Is Going To Lose (Again) to DeSantis
American Greatness ^ | By Josh Hammer | Josh Hammer

Posted on 04/22/2023 12:26:08 PM PDT by lasereye

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To: discostu

Florida has tons of amusement corporations. Disney is way too meddlesome.

Their brand is damaged: It represents and condones pedos.

Seize it. Bulldoze it.

Sell it to Sea World. Let them develop the property.

-For the children.


21 posted on 04/22/2023 2:05:08 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: discostu
People do not want Disney standing with weirdos who want to groom and sexually mutilate children. This is the wrong fight for Disney.

Why? Because it's the parents of the kind of kids who go to Disney who resent the crap out of sexual weirdos wanting access to their children.

If this was a bar or a real estate group wanting groomers to have access to children it wouldn't hurt their business that much.

But Disney's business IS happy children and loving parents...

22 posted on 04/22/2023 2:11:38 PM PDT by GOPJ (How would YOU feel if your best friend, father or boss saw you drinking a Bud Light?)
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To: lasereye

more insider phony baloney, deals future revenues optics etc.


23 posted on 04/22/2023 2:18:54 PM PDT by Third Person
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To: GOPJ

That’s not what Disney is fighting anymore. Their fight is that DeSantis took them on. Doesn’t matter why. This is Sicilian now. DeSantis said he was going to punish them, and he took too long, so they got around him.

Disney’s business is making money. Just like every other business.


24 posted on 04/22/2023 2:22:46 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: lasereye

Just close off all roads leading in. Claim that iguanas and gators are a risk. F** Disney. Close them down. They will quickly come round. Or, they go under. Win/win either way.


25 posted on 04/22/2023 2:28:27 PM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: lasereye

Time to destroy disney. I trust their leftist employees are hurt most.


26 posted on 04/22/2023 2:32:13 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: discostu
The new District board presumptively has full legal power to act and will not be enjoined by the courts based on an unprecedented and highly questionable contract with Disney by its predecessor District board. It is Disney that will have to litigate for years with no clear basis for victory in court and many pitfalls along the way.

Moreover, there is another dimension to the controversy that is little commented on so far. For Disney, rail-based mass transit long caused nightmares due to its potential to divert visitors from their parks. For that reason, Disney successfully opposed local mass transit in the form of light rail and a potential local MAGLEV line.

Now though, local mass rail transit is established in central Florida and high-speed rail is developing rapidly in much of the state with an Orlando station to open in a few weeks. This poses the question of whether to link with or bypass Disney in new stations for upcoming expansions now being planned for both local and high speed rail.

Like a recalcitrant debutante who unwisely spent too many years rejecting suitors and is now desperate to marry, Disney suddenly wants in on mass transit lest they lose out to competitors like Universal Studios, Sea World, the Orange County Convention center, International Drive shopping outlets, and downtown Orlando. These venues and the nearby hotels that serve them are already linked into local mass transit or plans are being set to link them in because they are willing partners and geographically closer together than the relatively distant Disney World parks.

Thus, as mass transit and high speed rail connections are developed and passenger counts rise, visitors to Orlando will increasingly take high speed rail within Florida or fly into Orlando International and then ride local rail transit to non-Disney tourist and convention venues. Local car rental will be less and less needed. My reading of the new District and its powers is that they will have a key role in deciding whether high speed and local rail stations get built to serve Disney and other tourist venues and on what terms.

To be sure, that issue is complex with lots of moving parts, with various agencies and units of government able to veto stations or influence the financial conditions for stations at Disney and other tourist venues. My guess is that the mass transit issues will be at the core of settlement talks with the new District board and the other government entities.

In sum, what may look like a master legal stroke by Disney is actually a chancy move by a company that is holding a weak hand in a game with billions of dollars at stake.

27 posted on 04/22/2023 2:48:28 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: discostu

<>Never bet against The Mouse.<>

Avoid embarrassment.

Never post without reading the article.


28 posted on 04/22/2023 2:52:17 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Rockingham

But they DO NOT presumptively have full power. And very much will be enjoined by the courts based on a contract that probably has precedent, in Florida even.

Remember America was built on the concept of limited government. There’s all kinds of stuff governments can’t do. In some areas they’re more restricted than others.

I wouldn’t say master stroke by Disney. I’d say dumb move by DeSantis. Which they then short circuited in a way to maximize how dumb it made him look. And put it all into a situation they can drag out in courts for years, and use to campaign against many state officials through that whole time. Impressive, but not masterful. Masterful would have settled behind closed doors and actually let DeSantis “win”. This was mean spirited. And funny. And will eventually win for them.


29 posted on 04/22/2023 2:54:36 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Jacquerie

I read the article. They’re wrong. As I’ve pointed out to many. Avoid embarrassment never reply to an early post without reading the rest of the conversation.


30 posted on 04/22/2023 2:55:38 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu

Glad to know that you are siding with Cultural marxists.


31 posted on 04/22/2023 3:59:40 PM PDT by cowboyusa (IT'S TIME TO PLAY COWBOYS AND MARXISTS!)
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To: discostu

I practiced law for many years and am unaware of any precedent for what Disney and the outgoing Reedy Creek Improvement District did. I do not see Florida’s courts enforcing such an irregular contract that is plainly contrary to public policy.


32 posted on 04/22/2023 6:05:15 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: discostu

Okay, You don’t care about social issues. That still leaves constitutional and fiscal issues that the original Reedy Creek board can’t get around regardless of what you and Trump say.


33 posted on 04/22/2023 6:05:20 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: discostu

WOW!
You sure seem to think you are the expert on this topic.
Hey discostu - why don’t you load up on Disney stock if you think they are such a winner.
For some reason Universal Studios stayed out of the headlines. I am not suggesting they are as pure as the driven snow. And their parent and affiliated companies produce and promote unwholesome stuff.
But Disney has a lot of really old stuff that needs to be updated.
I think Universal is very well-positioned to take business away from Disney over the next several years.


34 posted on 04/22/2023 7:26:24 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: discostu

Excellent analysis. As you correctly point out, this will be argued in the courts for years to come. I don’t see Disney shutting down Disney World or moving it out of Florida, but what they can and likely will do, while this works its way through the court system, is make some very well publicized layoffs from some of their Florida operations, put expansion projects on hold, etc. and all the while making it known that such actions are a response to the ongoing litigation and the uncertainty it’s causing Disney over their future in Florida.


35 posted on 04/22/2023 8:09:59 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: discostu

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Hahahahahah. “The people will elect someone to end the Disney persecution”.

People in Florida love Desantis. They think of him along the lines of Tim Tebow.

Disney is going to be like abortion and guns and Bud Light. It’s now a symbol and they will be fighting an entity with taxing and regulatory power over any and ALL business they have.

Florida can slow roll “inspections” of restaurants, monorails, hotel parking, adequate drainage from golf courses and parks, water quality inspection, employee health codes, and on and on and on.

They can temporarily close roads, rides and restaurants until they’re able to pass inspection. They could make the roads in and out of Disney one lane toll roads. They could impart special taxes or fees to support Orlando Regional Medical Center and on and on. They could restrict trucks into and out of Disney by regulating which roads they can take and literally grind down the logistics of Disney to supply itself with anything.

Disney is going to win? Win what? The ability to stay in business legally? But only after Florida extracts it’s pound of gold and make it such a hassle to do profitable business.

Then there’s the property tax …. Hahahahahaha. The real 300 pound gorilla in the room. That is the nuclear option. All the properties will now have appraisal and amortization of late fees added to the mix from a hostile governing body.

It’s going to be the happiest of times for the Disney lawyers but maybe not so much for the stock holders or the homosexual grooming staff and corporate board.


36 posted on 04/23/2023 4:24:50 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 "deo duce ferro comitantes" <p><b><i></I></B><P> <img src=""> )
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To: discostu

Making things up in order to agree with your cult leader.


37 posted on 04/23/2023 9:06:09 AM PDT by lasereye ( )
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To: lasereye

BWAAHGAHGAHA

Extra funny since you’re making things up.

Understand when I say “x is going to happen” doesn’t mean I want it. I’m just being honest. Disney always wins. Betting against Disney is a fools errand. DeSantis misplayed his hand. He’s losing to them. Not what I want, but those are the facts and denying them won’t make them not true.


38 posted on 04/23/2023 9:11:28 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: lasereye

I couldn’t care less about “Disney losing to DeSantis”.

I want to know if the bankers, the neocons, and the Deep State warmongers will lose to DeSantis - and I think I already have my answer.


39 posted on 04/24/2023 6:36:37 PM PDT by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing )
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To: discostu

Making things up in order to agree with your cult leader.


40 posted on 04/26/2023 7:49:31 AM PDT by lasereye ( )
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