My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell ordered to pay $5M over debunked 2020 election data

The Hill ^ | 04/20/23 11:58 AM ET

[srmanuel]

If the line in question is a true ISDN I can assure the Chinese were not using it to hack election machines

First, true ISDN circuits come in two flavors, basic rate interface (BRI) and Primary rate interface (PRI), BRI interfaces can handle 128 kb A second with two 64k channels and PRI interfaces can handle 1.544 mbs with 24 - 64kb channel

For a country trying to hack the USA that’s hard enough bandwidth to do anything

[Observator]

For a country trying to hack the USA that’s hard enough bandwidth to do anything

Admittedly I don't have your expertise, but that does sound a lot like what the government security experts said when confronted with Lindell's theories. Mike said if there was some crack in the pipe, he'd be the one to find it.

[srmanuel]

Think about it for a second, China is not a stupid country with elementary grade cyber operations.

If you were going to hack the US elections, would you do it at some location in China or in multiple locations inside the US, making almost impossible to discover.

The other thing, there isn’t just one pipe between the USA and the rest of the world for internet traffic, in order to get the information Lindell has, he would have to gather information from all the pipes in order to get a complete capture.

The NSA supposedly captures every email, text message and call logs for every phone call into and out of the USA, that is an extraordinary capability that no one else has, which is why I think they would be the only organization that could gather the information Lindell claims to have, given his high profile status, if he really had that information the Feds would be all over him and confiscate the data and probably arrest him.

[servantoftheservant]

Are you serious? 1. the ballots ARE rife with fraud, especially absentee ballots. 2. many ballots were destroyed in violation of the law. 3. Ballots are manufactured after the fact to fit the database manipulation. Why do you think it takes 2 weeks to ‘count’ ballots behind closed doors?

My god man. Get a clue.

Did you not pay attention to what went on in Phoenix, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Detroit and Milwaukee in 2020?

[Renfrew]

I think you misunderstood my comment.

[linMcHlp]

No Google Glass.

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Tried to find some worthy info in the files from Bob Zeidman. Using his text file, "Exhibit D - Target_MachineID_HEX.rtf", here are the first six lines:

{\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\cocoartf2513
\cocoatextscaling0\cocoaplatform0{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;}
{\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;}
{\*\expandedcolortbl;;}
\margl1440\margr1440\vieww10800\viewh8400\viewkind0
\pard\tx720\tx1440\tx2160\tx2880\tx3600\tx4320\tx5040\tx5760\tx6480\tx7200\tx7920\tx8640\pardirnatural\partightenfactor0

Those first six lines are RTF file info, plus sometimes, info about the computing device (and/or its OS), and about software involved. Such lines vary, depending sometimes upon the computer in, and depending upon the software used to create the RTF file.

That is a bit of a hint, that you might be able - over time - to stumble upon the software that created the RTF file, by discovering a match or "close enough" in the pattern of those six lines, with the resulting RTF file created by some software that you use.

Reference materials for understanding RTF:

Rich Text Format (RTF) Version 1.5 Specification
https://www.biblioscape.com/rtf15_spec.htm

RTF Pocket Guide:
https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/rtf-pocket-guide/9781449302047/ch01.html

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The first data line:

\f0\fs24 \cf0 \'cc\'df\'b3\'b7Q.WVn\'a8_\'d4.q\'c2.`\'d5Y\'c5\'be\'c1.i#\'fe.P\'dar?.(\'a0\

. . . has ASCII characters that represent (can be converted to) HEX values. For example, the character string \'cc (backslash apostrophe c c) - ignore the backslash apostrophe characters, and convert the ASCII characters "cc" (no quotes) to HEX.

The following lines illustrate the conversion.

NEW LINE FOLLOWS

REFERENCE: https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/rtf-pocket-guide/9781449302047/ch01.html

\f0		font associated with the number 0 in the font table
\fs24		font size 24
cf0		foreground color associated with the number 0 in the color table

REFERENCE: https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/number/ascii-to-hex.html

\'cc		ASCII text converted to HEX		63 63
\'df		ASCII text converted to HEX		64 66
\'b3		ASCII text converted to HEX		62 33
\'b7Q.WVn		ASCII text converted to HEX		62 37 51 2E 57 56 6E
\'a8		ASCII text converted to HEX		61 38 5F
\'d4.q		ASCII text converted to HEX		64 34 2E 71
\'c2.`		ASCII text converted to HEX		63 32 2E 60
\'d5Y		ASCII text converted to HEX		64 35 59
\'c5		ASCII text converted to HEX		63 35
\'be		ASCII text converted to HEX		62 65
\'c1.i#		ASCII text converted to HEX		63 31 2E 69 23
\'fe.P		ASCII text converted to HEX		66 65 2E 50
\'dar?.(		ASCII text converted to HEX		64 61 72 3F 2E 28
\'a0		ASCII text converted to HEX		61 30
\		(probably end of line)

THAT "NEW LINE" ARRANGED IN THE FORM AS SEEN IN THE Wireshark IMAGE:

63 63 64 66 62 33 62 37  51 2E 57 56 6E 61 38 5F
64 34 2E 71 63 32 2E 60  64 35 59 63 35 62 65 63
31 2E 69 23 66 65 2E 50  64 61 72 3F 2E 28 61 30

But, you still need the actual year 2020 election data traffic packets, in order to find a match - and Mike Lindell did not provide the traffic packets data in any meaningful, readable form.

If "Exhibit D - Target_MachineID_HEX.rtf" is actually a conversion from a PCAP file, and therefore it can be flipped back to being that PCAP file, the software program for doing that work, is a major missing link. IMHO

[linMcHlp]

Preceding:

cf0

foreground color associated with the number 0 in the color table

Should be:

\cf0

foreground color associated with the number 0 in the color table

[linMcHlp]

Wireshark image:

[linMcHlp]

One more reference for you - how to use Wireshark:

https://www.comparitech.com/net-admin/how-to-use-wireshark/

[Texan4Life]

Struggling Bed Bath & Beyond files for bankruptcy protection

https://apnews.com/article/bed-bath-beyond-bankruptcy-filing-a597c1013b2f641b7b32e87ad81be6d8

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