Posted on 04/13/2023 1:00:07 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
As its Black Sea fleet flagship, the Moskva, reached the depths of the seabed in mid-April 2022, Russia insisted Ukraine had nothing to do with the sinking of the 510-crew guided missile cruiser.
Russian state media provided various explanations for the sinking of the prominent flagship—none of which included a deliberate Ukrainian strike.
Russia's Defense Ministry said a "fire" followed by a "munitions blast" had inflicted "serious damage" on the cruiser, prompting a crew evacuation. "The explosions of ammunition have been stopped," the ministry then said, according to state media, which claimed the ship was still afloat and being taken to port.
Ultimately, the ship then sank after losing "stability due to hull damage" in a "heavy storm," according to the ministry's narrative.
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That’s hilarious!
Very good!
Did Russia ever report how many were lost aboard Moskva?
Putin silenced the families of the drowned sailors and refused to pay death benefit compensation because the sailors were deemed MIA instead of KIA.
Moskva no sink. Moskva stronk like Putin.
Could have been deemed an act of war.
I thought that all US intelligence agencies kept up with are Prolife Americans and Baptist gun enthusiasts.
*grin*
—> Ukraine’s state administration, headquartered in the Black Sea port city of Odesa, wrote on April 13, 2022.
🧐😂
Two weeks before the war started, the Moskva's readiness report was leaked on line. The ship was barely seaworthy. The engines were past their service life, the air defense except one CIWS didn't work. The control systems were worn out. The entire class was built as a safeguard if the Kirov class failed, so they were built big and cheap, including damage control.
From what I can tell, she was hit three miles off shore while on a shore bombardment mission, without escorts. Even if her air defense worked perfectly and were updated, they would still have problems on low altitude air targets over land since the land mass creates lots of radar horizons and background problems. The Russian Navy was so overconfident they did not try to screen the most obviously vulnerable and high value asset they had, on a shore bombardment mission another ship could have done, if the mission was worth it at all.
Before she was sunk, on April 3, 2022, Ukraine successfully used a Neptune anti-ship missile to attack the frigate Admiral Essen. Another Russian warship close to shore was fired upon using a BM-21 and a transport sunk in harbor by a ballistic missile. The Russian Navy had to know that Ukraine was absolutely looking for any opportunity to sucker punch the Russian navy and had the means.
The icing on the cake, The Moskva was built in Ukrainian shipyards. They knew the ship and what condition she was in. A NATO reconnaissance aircraft was tracking her, and the Moskva had a regularly schedule maneuvers like clockwork, limited if any variability in her maneuvers.
Given all of that, what was the Russian navy thinking?
n o no no
it was a NAZI submarine
(AH might have been aboard!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOJSPjDMUFo
The map in Bahkumt doesn't lie:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1-2Smeu-61CyCCdbHQ32Z6uJ6wbGdsZE&entry=yt&ll=48.637070662443044%2C37.89535359221576&z=11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-qXMJOf9-M
Update on Russian military operations in Ukraine for April 12, 2023:
- Russian forces continue taking territory around the fortified cities of Avdeevka and Bakhmut;
- Russian forces now control much of the west bank of the Bakhmutka River;
- A Ukrainian missile fired deep into Crimea (and intercepted by Russian air defenses) may have been a Ukrainian Grom-2, comparable to the Iskander missile with a range of 500km;
- Despite the capabilities of the Grom-2 and potential NATO assistance to produce them (most likely in Poland) it is unlikely these missiles will appear in numbers large enough to overwhelm Russian air defenses;
- NYT admits Ukrainian air defenses are deteriorating, allowing Russia to more freely use its military aviation;
- While Western analysts claim this development may not translate into Russian success, arriving at this juncture is already very much a Russian success;
Send your suggestions to Putin, maybe he will take your advice.
“ The entire class was built as a safeguard if the Kirov class failed, so they were built big and cheap, including damage control.”.
Just like all their military equipment.
Is a list of Russia’s actions that could be equally deemed acts of war necessary, or is it only American actions count?
Everyone is laughing and sneering at how bad the Russians are. Their navy sucks, they can’t capture a pipsqueak little town like Bakhmut, yet we are supposed to believe they are a huge threat to all of Europe. Why, if we don’t stop them all of western civilization will overcome. I think we’re being snookered.
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