Posted on 04/11/2023 9:02:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
In the United States, we are reminded on a regular, often daily basis of the crucial need to give up our gas-guzzling vehicles and get an electric car or truck so we can save the planet or whatever. We hear it from everyone from the President to most of the cable news outlets. The day is coming sooner than you think! You need to be ready! We receive ominous warnings of bans on the sale of gas vehicles and penalties for those who fail to comply. So how is that working out so far? Are people rushing out to get their EV and their personal charging station? According to the latest polling from The Associated Press and NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, not so much. Only a little more than 15 percent of American households have either an electric or hybrid vehicle. And when it comes time to buy their next car, not many expect it to be an EV.
Many Americans aren’t yet sold on going electric for their next cars, a new poll shows, with high prices and too few charging stations the main deterrents. About 4 in 10 U.S. adults are at least somewhat likely to switch, but the history-making shift from the country’s century-plus love affair with gas-driven vehicles still has a ways to travel.
The poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research and the Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago shows that the Biden administration’s plans to dramatically raise U.S. EV sales could run into resistance from consumers. Only 8% of U.S. adults say they or someone in their household owns or leases an electric vehicle, and just 8% say their household has a plug-in hybrid vehicle.
The AP seems to try to put a bit of spin on the results by saying that “about 4 in 10 adults are at least somewhat likely” to switch to an electric vehicle. But in reality, just 19% said they are “very” or “extremely” likely to purchase an EV when they next go car shopping. (And that apparently includes people who are already EV drivers.) Another 22% basically said that they might think about it, while just short of half are taking a pass.
The two most common reasons given for not wanting to switch are probably the ones you would expect if you’ve been following this topic. The most common reason was the price. Electric vehicles remain far more expensive than their gas-powered equivalents, and Teslas (seemingly the gold standard) remain beyond the reach of most.
The second most common reason was concern over being able to find charging stations. This isn’t as much of a problem for people who live in larger cities and rarely drive out into more rural areas. But for everyone else, it remains something of a crap shoot. Concerns about “refueling” (recharging) time and managing trips around finding charging stations were two of the common complaints among respondents.
Joe Biden continues to say that he wants half of all new vehicles sold to be “zero emission” by 2030. That’s less than seven years away. Does it really look like we’re going to have the infrastructure for that in place by then while we deal with the other cascading series of crises plaguing the nation?
And what if fewer than half of car shoppers want an electric vehicle in 2030? What if only 40% want one? Does this work out to be some sort of “first come, first served” system? Let’s say the lucky 40% rush out early in the year and buy a gas-powered car. Will the next ten percent be told to simply start taking public transportation or the Battery Police will be paying them a visit? I can see some serious issues on the horizon. Meanwhile, you can find me lining up at the ethanol-free gas pump. And as far as the Battery Police go… come and get it.
Wait until electricity costs start skyrocketing because of the EV drivers demand of electricity. It’s going to get ugly. Very ugly.
Since the whole thing about EV’s is transfer of energy ownership to the globalists, it’s entirely possible that Big Oil doesn’t care who owns it as long as it can still stay in business.
Very few will get an electric car until the infrastructure is there for it and the price falls a lot. I’m still trying to figure out how tenement building are going to have enough electric charging stations to accommodate.
China has a massive excess of cars right now that burn good old gasoline, but they have a massive shortage of electric vehicles. Wow in the US what we have is a massive shortage of electrical vehicles, and a massive shortage of good old gasoline burning cars.
You might ask yourself why, the answer is because the electric vehicles in China blow up and catch on fire while the electric vehicles in the US, require entire lake of water to put out the fire but they have a less of a tendency of blowing up and catching fire in the first place. We have a very destroyed market between China and the US right now.
What our rulers are really saying is that they want the middle class out of cars. By making extremely expensive cars the only option, our rulers get uncrowded freeways for themselves and satisfy their dream of forcing everyone else onto buses and light rail.
We need multiple planets to mine enough copper for what the left wants, in regards to electrifying society.
Divestment is occurring despite them.
The more $$ are corralled for climate zealots, the faster big oil accelerates to big coal’s fate.
I filled up today at Costco. Took a mere 5 minutes; all here knows how long it would have taken to charge 400 miles to an EV on a level 2/type 2 charger (208VAC, 4-10 hours, depending on temperature).
The fate of EVs will be sealed by their stubborn reliance on entry level battery tech; word is already getting around.
That, or we’ll be ‘compelled’ to choose EV (just like we might soon be compelled to choose muskets over semi-automatic firearms).
You realize if the situation was reversed and the world drove 95% EV and 5% ICE, the woke left would be forcing us into ICE vehicles even though the oil/gas infrastructure was not ready. They would claim that all the strip mining needed extract raw materials to make car batteries is environmentally hazardous and oil is the cleaner safer alternative. This is all about upending the status quo.
If Biden wants “zero emission” by 2030, he better get busy upgrading all the electric utilities massively. And move to nuclear, geothermal, and natural gas because the windmills and solar panels won’t cut it. I’m particularly interested in factory-built small nuclear reactors, including thorium.
I know what they are doing. It’s all about them owning the oil, but they have to create the market conditions that bring down the oil so the resource can be bought cheaply by them to then sell to us for a premium.
Private companies and individuals cannot afford to own worthless shares of anything forever, but the globalists can wait it out until the oil companies are forced to sell what they own to them. Then once the globalists own the oil, they will demand that we pay a premium for it.
You will pay a premium, because where else are you going to go for your gas, when they own all the gas?
I generally buy used cars that have lost the bulk of their value. Usually about 5 - 10 years.
EV’s lose the bulk of their value in the same time frame but then have a huge battery replacement bill ahead of them and it’s usually more than the car is worth at that point.
EV’s are a dead end until they have far better battery tech. EV’s are also totaled much easier so a slight fender bender renders it worthless. No EV’s for me. I also don’t trust the electronics in EV’s. Once can usually work around the electronics in an ICE vehicle unless it’s the main computer or something to do with the fuel delivery or ignition systems.
Let the wealthy have their EV toys and take the big hit on loss of value. They do it already with luxury vehicles, RV’s, and boats.
“”Electric vehicles remain far more expensive than their gas-powered equivalents, and Teslas (seemingly the gold standard) remain beyond the reach of most.””
I remind people almost daily that we all pay for the well-off to have their EV. State and Federal subsidies (taxpayer $$$) fund each EV purchase. Most of the “beyond the reach” people still fork out $$ to each EV purchase in the form of taxes.
For many who do purchase an EV, their EV is the second or third car. So, while the regular folk cannot afford to purchase and charge an EV, their hard-earned money is taken to help others purchase what they cannot.
“” The whole thing about EV’s is transfer of energy ownership to the globalists,””
Recently some Los Angeles apparatchik suggested the EV owners plug their EV auto BACK INTO THE ELECTRIC GRID, to assist when there is not enough power generation.
And as the battery ages, it loses some of its ability to hold a charge. What is the resale value of EVs? How much does it cost to purchase a new battery? I can see some real problems as EVs age. Used EVs could have some resale issues.
Mercedes is going all electric by 2030. I guess they don’t care about sales to Africa, Asia, South America, and the rest of the developing nations. once government starts picking winners and losers, it turns to sh*t.
my last electric bill was $0.51 per kWh.
Mostly all produced by diesel generators
since all coal was outlawed in Hawaii, to save the environment.
All you Democrats better be able to deal with the cards you are being dealt, because I’m not going to save your useless a$$es.
They’ll start limiting 1 EV per building and the rest take public transportation. Or they rotate where you can only charge your EV once per week.
Mercedes might as well paint the image of Dylan Mulvaney on cars, as they are being as stupid as Anheiser-Busch, Nike and Jack Daniels.
Yup. When ya got 2,000 people living in a high-rise apt. building, where are the charging stations going to be situated?
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