Posted on 04/09/2023 7:17:15 AM PDT by Mariner
It should be simple enough for even you to understand — you are making false allegations with no proof.
There is no evidence for what you are alleging
Your brain is false
Because you have no clue how much bigger than GDP the national debt is. You are a disgusting neocon.
you’re jumping all over the place —>
you wrote in post 16 “It would have been over in 13 hours without your hero Biden piling 500 Billion on national debt to send to Ukraine.”
That is patently false - In Feb and March paedoBiden abandoned Ukraine - he had pulled out troops and he then in Feb 25th offered to ship out Zelensky and let Putin take over ukraine
The Ukrainians fought back - on their own - for Feb and March —> defeating the Russians at the battle of Hostomel airport and the battle for Kyiv.
Because the Ukrainians showed the willingness to defend themselves, the world started saying “hey, let’s send them help” - in March/April.
In the first 13 hours Ukraine stood by itself and defended itself.
I provided a link in #203 the one directly before #202 which I am responding to and probably half a dozen others in this thread alone. This proves either that reading comprehension is not one of your strong points, or that you don’t follow links even when they are provided. How is it that you are able to ignore oceans of evidence about Ukrainian corruption and their enablers in Western intelligence, politicians, bureaucrats, businesspeople, and et al. and then keep a straight face.
The laughable thing about the typical MSM article about corruption in Ukraine is that the authors almost always acknowledge that there is a huge problem, but then they typically come up with reasons to pretend that the evidence isn’t strong enough or that the head of the snake, Zelenskyy is trying to fight it. That is because most articles on corruption in Ukraine found in the Western press are actually trying to push the excuses and minimize the damage to those who are corrupt.
There has been an ocean of evidence... Even Hunter’s laptop which I suppose you still believe is “Russian misinformation” contained references to the Biden family’s illicit connections in Ukraine... Even our leftist media is starting to find it difficult not to acknowledge all sorts of scandalous evidence of corruption involving Ukraine and the Bidens. But you of course continue to stand firm that “there is no evidence” of what is being alleged. You remind me of those in our judicial system that have been provided with ample evidence of election fraud but always manage to come up with some arcane reason why it is all inadmissible. Some of the most recent examples of this are with Kerry Lake in Arizona.
But here goes with more links and a few observations from myself about those which follow the typical pattern... acknowledge the problem then make excuses or try andinvalidate. eg. Biden was out of office when the email was written so it’s OK.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54553132
As an example of trying to make excuses, the BBC says this,
“The New York Post cited a purported email from Hunter Biden in August 2017 indicating he was receiving a $10m annual fee from a Chinese billionaire for “introductions alone”, though it is unclear who was involved in the alleged introductions.”
“Another purported email, which Fox News said it had confirmed, reportedly refers to a deal pursued by Hunter involving China’s largest private energy firm. It is said to include a cryptic mention of “10 held by H for the big guy”.
“Fox News cited unnamed sources as saying “the big guy” in the purported email was a reference to Joe Biden. This message is said to be from May 2017. Both emails would date from when the former US vice-president was a private citizen.”
The ABC article acknowledges that Ukraine is corrupt but claims Zelenskyy is bravely soldiering on while he fights it. All while other sources say that the fired generals and officials were sacked because they were complaining about Zelenskyy taking too large a cut for himself...
https://www.cato.org/commentary/whitewashing-ukraines-corruption
https://news.yahoo.com/zelenskyy-fired-9-top-officials-053550592.html
An interesting one... because some of those fired were apparently whistle blowers.
To end... here is a laughable propaganda piece from the Atlantic that could have been written by you. You see it really is all President Trump’s fault:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/12/zelensky-ukraine-impeachment/602905/
“Until the presidency of Donald Trump, the United States served as both Ukraine’s protector and its ethical conscience. In the years after the Iraq War, amid a global turn toward illiberalism, Ukraine was perhaps the place where American idealism burned brightest. Under the pressure of the State Department, and prodded by a restless and dissatisfied public, the Ukrainian government fitfully traveled in the democratic direction that Washington guided it in.”
I could go on and on and on... but there really is no point is there? If we had video of Zelenskyy shooting one of his advisors in the head (which he allegedly did do) you would still say there was no “proof”. You have revealed yourself here as being exactly the same as all of those who claim there are no problems with our elections, no problems with selective prosecution of political opponents, no problems with the Bidens, Clintons, Pelosis, etc. etc. etc... I don’t have to paint you this way; you have done it to yourself.
The Ukrainians fought back - on their own - for Feb and March —> defeating the Russians at the battle of Hostomel airport and the battle for Kyiv.
Do the nurses need to up your dosage or are you hiding the pills under your tongue again and spitting them out later?
Right! And 2020 was a free and fair election which Joe Biden is the totally legitimate winner of!
Right. Got it.
When you use riots and violence ending in assassinations (some of it false flagged) to force someone from office, and they then flee the country to avoid being killed that is what what most everyone calls a "coup".
I don’t support Biden’s policy. I think Ukraine should be helped, but I don’t call what Biden is doing “help”. Fireman is too obtuse to argue with, so let him think what he wants. It’s like debating with my late mother-in-law. Can’t fix stupid.
Yeaah, “globalresearch.ca” - that’s a Russian government front
There was no coup in 2014 in Ukraine, nor an attempted coup on Jan 6, 2020
You Ruskis are trying to divide the west.
And you’re failing
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