To: Mariner
However or whoever or whenever the West fights China, it will need NATO and the American military better prepared, and better armed, with a reinvigorated weapons-producing West and greater awareness and unity on military issues, and a lessened Russian threat.
All that is happening, and even under the liberals in control, it is still happening to a degree.
19 posted on
04/07/2023 1:48:54 PM PDT by
ansel12
(NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
To: ansel12; Mariner
Mariner #14:
"By depleting resources and political will.
Yep.
Only a neocon could think this is how you position to fight China."ansel12 #19: "However or whoever or whenever the West fights China, it will need NATO and the American military better prepared, and better armed, with a reinvigorated weapons-producing West and greater awareness and unity on military issues, and a lessened Russian threat.
All that is happening, and even under the liberals in control, it is still happening to a degree."
Right, or at least it seems to be happening.
I am haunted by words from Bob Gates and Barak Obama:
"I think he has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades,” former Defense Secretary Robert Gates says of Vice President Joe Biden in his new book coming out later this month.
Gates' assessment of Biden's boss is only slightly better, depicting an Obama administration with very murky lines of communication on military issues."
Atlantic Feb 7, 2014
"Yet searing, anonymously sourced quotes from Obama kept appearing through the race.
One Democrat who spoke to Obama recalled the former president warning, "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up." Speaking of his own waning understanding of today's Democratic electorate, especially in Iowa, Obama told one 2020 candidate: "And you know who really doesn't have it? Joe Biden.""
Snopes, Oct 26, 2022
And those were before Afghanistan.
These are what worry me, more than anything else.
32 posted on
04/07/2023 3:31:39 PM PDT by
BroJoeK
(future DDG 134 -- we remember)
To: ansel12
“it will need NATO”
Anyone who thinks NATO will show up in the Pacific when the SHTF is smoking crack.
They won’t. In spite of treaty.
None of them, excepting those who accidentally get caught there.
It will be the US, Japan, Taiwan, Korea and Australia.
44 posted on
04/07/2023 5:53:18 PM PDT by
Mariner
(War Criminal #18)
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