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To: Mariner

However or whoever or whenever the West fights China, it will need NATO and the American military better prepared, and better armed, with a reinvigorated weapons-producing West and greater awareness and unity on military issues, and a lessened Russian threat.

All that is happening, and even under the liberals in control, it is still happening to a degree.


19 posted on 04/07/2023 1:48:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12; Mariner
Mariner #14: "By depleting resources and political will.
Yep.
Only a neocon could think this is how you position to fight China."

ansel12 #19: "However or whoever or whenever the West fights China, it will need NATO and the American military better prepared, and better armed, with a reinvigorated weapons-producing West and greater awareness and unity on military issues, and a lessened Russian threat.
All that is happening, and even under the liberals in control, it is still happening to a degree."

Right, or at least it seems to be happening.
I am haunted by words from Bob Gates and Barak Obama:

And those were before Afghanistan.

These are what worry me, more than anything else.


32 posted on 04/07/2023 3:31:39 PM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: ansel12

“it will need NATO”

Anyone who thinks NATO will show up in the Pacific when the SHTF is smoking crack.

They won’t. In spite of treaty.

None of them, excepting those who accidentally get caught there.

It will be the US, Japan, Taiwan, Korea and Australia.


44 posted on 04/07/2023 5:53:18 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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