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Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin set for defeat in national vote: Finland's Center-right National Coalition Party leader Petteri Orpo expected to get first shot at forming a government.
Politico ^ | 04/02/2023 | CHARLIE DUXBURY

Posted on 04/02/2023 9:18:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Finland’s center-right National Coalition Party was on course to take power in a general election Sunday after voter concerns about the economic outlook fed dissatisfaction with Social Democrat incumbent Sanna Marin, a star of the European left. 

With 99 percent of votes counted, the National Coalition Party (NCP) under the leadership of Petteri Orpo had secured 48 of Finland’s 200 parliamentary seats, pushing Marin’s party into third place with 43. The far-right Finns Party was second with 46 seats. 

The defeat of Marin would represent the latest blow for the European left with Germany’s Olaf Scholz under pressure at home and Sweden’s Magdalena Andersson voted out at a general election last September. Denmark’s Mette Frederiksen won a second term last fall only after a sharp shift to the political right. 

Marin pushed a traditional left-leaning campaign in the run-up to Sunday’s vote, railing against proposed public spending cuts by the center-right and calling on Finns to back fiscal investments she said would lead to greater employment and economic growth. 

But in the end, fears about rising public debt, a deep-seated concern in Finland, appeared to have undermined Marin’s prospects with NCP leader Orpo’s messaging on fiscal discipline winning voters to his side.

“This was a big win,” Orpo told supporters as the end of the vote count neared. “Our message has got through, the support is there, and Finns believe in the National Coalition Party.”

Orpo is now set to get the first shot at forming a government and he is likely to seek to include the anti-immigration Finns Party. He could also try to strike a deal with the Social Democrats to govern together although that looks less likely, experts say, after repeated clashes over economic policy between the two over recent months.

If Orpo were to fail to form a government, Marin could be offered a chance to build a coalition. She has said she doesn’t want to govern with the Finns, a party she has accused of making openly racist statements.

A change of government is expected to have little impact on Finland’s security stance, with the NCP a firm backer of the country’s accession to NATO and military support for Ukraine.

A popular figure

Marin, who took over as Social Democrat leader in 2019, remains a popular figure both at home and abroad. Her handling of the COVID pandemic was seen as effective and her pivot to supporting Finland’s entry into NATO was well received. 

She also retained firm support among voters despite opposition claims that she lacked seriousness after she was filmed dancing and singing with friends at a party last summer. 

The Social Democrats’ 43 seats in parliament represented a rise of 3 from the previous election in 2019 and she sought to portray that as a win of sorts. 

“I am grateful that our support has increased and that we look set to receive more mandates,” Marin said as the results came in. 

However, NCP’s result increased by 10 seats, boosted by Orpo’s promise to impose fiscal discipline.

As Finland has sought to bounce back from the pandemic, debt relative to GDP has risen and stood at 73 percent in the fourth quarter of last year from 66 percent a year earlier, most recent data show.

As the voting came to an end, Orpo suggested reversing an expected recession would be his focus. 

“We are starting government negotiations with the economy as the core issue,” Orpo said. 



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1 posted on 04/02/2023 9:18:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Turns out this “center-right” party is actually left-wing.

“For example, it supports multiculturalism, work-based immigration, gay rights and same-sex marriage.[2][36][37][38] ... the party in the 1970s shifted to supporting more social liberalism, such as increased social security and a welfare state...In international relations, the party advocates for multilateralism. It is pro-European and supports continued European integration within the European Union (EU).”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_Party


2 posted on 04/02/2023 9:26:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

“Turns out this “center-right” party is actually left-wing.”

Can you imagine how much further left the other party is.


3 posted on 04/02/2023 9:30:53 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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To: aquila48

How is Finland all that different from the Soviet derived current Russia?


4 posted on 04/02/2023 9:33:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

As far as American international interests go, it sounds OK.

Some quick factoids on the party and the man.

Among the party agenda is a 16-year campaign to get into NATO, support for Ukraine, and all the nuclear power that Finland can build.

“Opposition leader Orpo told the Reuters news agency that cutting unemployment, welfare benefits and business subsidies could rebalance the economy.”

“A change of government is expected to have little impact on Finland’s security stance, with the NCP a firm backer of the country’s accession to NATO and military support for Ukraine.”


5 posted on 04/02/2023 9:44:15 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Paladin2

“”How is Finland all that different from the Soviet derived current Russia?””

Is that a joke? Where would you prefer to live?

Finland is rated as the happiest nation on earth and the least corrupt nation on earth except for Denmark.


6 posted on 04/02/2023 9:47:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

The Finns sound like the peeps of NZ, Australia, Canaduh and, yes, the USA. All willingly submitting to gov’t tyranny.

Russia is the vision of the future.


7 posted on 04/02/2023 9:52:32 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Wow!


8 posted on 04/02/2023 9:55:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: SeekAndFind
So you lost your job honey now get your thong we’re going to the beach but make me a sammich first…good girl…

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9 posted on 04/02/2023 9:58:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: Paladin2

Government tyranny is the whole point of any Russian government. It’s in the functional definition of Russia - “that tyranny over there”.


10 posted on 04/02/2023 10:00:43 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Paladin2

I don’t think the people of Finland, America, New Zealand, Canada, and Australia will be fleeing to the wonderful Russian society of personal freedom and joy anytime soon.

I also doubt that the rest of the world will decide on Russia as the best place compared to the nations listed either.


11 posted on 04/02/2023 10:18:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

On this I can agree wholeheartedly with you. Finland is a nice country - one of the few I would pick if I could not be American.


12 posted on 04/02/2023 11:08:22 PM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s go Orpo!


13 posted on 04/02/2023 11:13:18 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

These Politico folks seem to think the European Left has been blown a lot.


14 posted on 04/02/2023 11:16:36 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: SeekAndFind
Finland's Prime Minister Sanna Marin concedes election

Updated 10:34 PM EDT, Sun April 2, 2023

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/02/europe/sanna-marin-finland-elections-concedes-intl/index.html

15 posted on 04/02/2023 11:39:31 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: SeekAndFind

She’s probably got a future as a stripper or sugar baby based upon the videos that got out.


16 posted on 04/03/2023 12:51:51 AM PDT by GaryCrow
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To: ansel12
Finland is rated as the happiest nation on earth and the least corrupt nation on earth except for Denmark.

Rated by whom?

The recent report that crowned Finland was UN sponsored and conducted by Gallup. The #1 measure used to evaluate that was "social support". Here's an except from the article: Finland "ranked very high on the measures of mutual trust that have helped to protect lives and livelihoods during the pandemic", the authors said.

That doesn't sound like any criteria I'd use to judge happiness.

Finns are generally a pretty morose people who don't smile a lot. They don't have a lot of social mobility due to the heavy taxation. "Existing adequately" would be the best way to describe them, you'll have what you need to live a comfortable life in Finland but you're never really going to break out and become a high achiever.

Finland also has one of the highest suicide rates in Europe, hardly what you'd find from the "Happiest nation on Earth".

That "report" is just another puff piece designed to advance the idea that utopia can be found by creating a giant welfare state.

17 posted on 04/03/2023 1:07:58 AM PDT by GaryCrow
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To: aquila48

Just to point out the numbers...the urbanization-factor (same as in the US) plays out well. The left/far-left vote is mostly around the Helsinki or other five or six major cities of the country.

Another odd factor in Finn elections is that scandals break out about every 18 months, over things that Americans would rank as one-star. But in the Finn landscape, these get blown way out of proportion. Just having a video clip of the PM holding a cocktail glass...would create a scandal.


18 posted on 04/03/2023 1:09:50 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: SeekAndFind

Lotta crazy on this thread.

The Finns made a mistake. THEY corrected it. Will WE?

BTW the few Finns I have known closely were anything but morose. One of them I would have married if she hadn’t already been.


19 posted on 04/03/2023 2:15:44 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: GaryCrow

Agree; this is some cockamamie UN report. I like the Finns, have traveled there numerous times, good people, fought like tigers against the Bolshevik invaders. Because they fought, Stalin respected them and gave them a good deal at the end of the war. But they also had the world’s highest suicide rate, and they must drink more alcohol per capita than any country on earth, and the weather is often cruddy.


20 posted on 04/03/2023 2:52:29 AM PDT by laconic
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