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Florida bill to carry concealed guns without permit heads to Gov. Ron DeSantis
Fox35 Orlando ^ | March 31, 2023 | Staff

Posted on 04/01/2023 6:39:57 AM PDT by Twotone

TALLAHASSEE - The Florida Senate on Thursday gave final approval to a bill that would allow people to carry guns without concealed-weapons licenses, sending the issue to Gov. Ron DeSantis.

The Republican-controlled Senate voted 27-13 almost almost straight party lines to pass the measure (HB 543), with Sen. Ileana Garcia, R-Miami, joining Democrats in opposition. The House approved the bill last week, and DeSantis has pledged to sign it.

In nixing a decades-old licensing requirement, the bill would allow people to carry concealed weapons without having to meet requirements such as firearms training and background screening. People carrying weapons would be required to have valid identification and be able to "display such identification upon demand by a law enforcement officer."

Many supporters labeled the measure "constitutional carry," in reference to Second Amendment constitutional rights. Sen. Jim Boyd, R-Bradenton, cited the Constitution during debate Thursday.

"The Second Amendment of the Constitution gives its people the right to keep and bear arms. It doesn’t say, ‘if you have a permit,’ it doesn’t say ‘if you’ve gone through training,’ it doesn’t say ‘if you’ve done a background check,’" Boyd said.

But some gun-rights advocates have disputed the constitutional carry label. They have argued the measure should have sought to allow what’s known as open carry — which would not require firearms to be concealed.

"This bill is a half-measure and is not what gun owners were promised. It isn't true constitutional carry because it doesn't include an open carry provision. This bill is weak and failed leadership on part of Gov. DeSantis and the Republican legislative leadership. Gun owners deserve better," Matt Collins, a former gun lobbyist who lives in Central Florida, said in a statement.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; constitutionalcarry; desantis; fl; florida
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1 posted on 04/01/2023 6:39:57 AM PDT by Twotone
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To: Twotone

Just how does this bill impact the purchase of a firearm ?


2 posted on 04/01/2023 6:42:11 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: Twotone

With more citizens able to conceal carry crime will go down as armed robbery becomes too risky.


3 posted on 04/01/2023 6:44:45 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: George from New England; marktwain; PROCON

I do not believe that it does.


4 posted on 04/01/2023 6:46:38 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Two words....GREAT!


5 posted on 04/01/2023 6:47:13 AM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star )
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To: Twotone

Always carry a weapon...always.


6 posted on 04/01/2023 6:47:47 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Twotone

What needs to be done to protect the 2nd Amendment is to abolish ALL arms laws. Then only the Constitution remains.


7 posted on 04/01/2023 6:50:26 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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To: George from New England

Does nothing, living in Florida, I have my concealed carry license, under the old law, you have to attend a class about firearms, fire on round from a gun, take a test, get fingerprinted and take a photo, fill out the paperwork and send it to Tallahassee, and wait for several weeks to get your license.

Now all that goes away, if you are a law-abiding citizen, you can buy a firearm and carry it legally without having to get a license.

It still has to be concealed, the legislature in Florida turned down open carry, personally I would not carry openly but that’s a personal choice, last week I was in a restaurant in a very rural area of Florida, some guys came in from hunting turkeys, one guy had a sidearm openly carrying and no one said anything, it was cool to see.


8 posted on 04/01/2023 6:52:58 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: joma89

“Always carry a weapon...always.”
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Yes Joma89!
And ALWAYS back into a parking space.
And ALWAYS sit with your back to a wall, while facing the entrance.
And ALWAYS note the nearest exit, when you enter.

And ALWAYS TRUST GOD FOR ALL THINGS (this is the hardest one)


9 posted on 04/01/2023 6:54:09 AM PDT by InkStone (ONLY returning to Faith in God, thru Jesus Yeshua, will save America)
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To: George from New England

In Florida where no permit is needed to buy a handgun it should have no impact. Unlike states like NY where a permit is needed to even own a handgun.


10 posted on 04/01/2023 6:58:20 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: Twotone

Because you never know when a tranny will get upset over their correct gender.


11 posted on 04/01/2023 7:01:55 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: George from New England
"Just how does this bill impact the purchase of a firearm ?"
In Florida, if you have a carry license you don't have a ten day waiting period. Without the license, you have the ten day waiting period. I think it's probably because federal laws are involved regarding background checks.
12 posted on 04/01/2023 7:20:46 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Twotone

Senator Garcia is going to be job searching soon.


13 posted on 04/01/2023 7:22:13 AM PDT by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: Twotone; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; umgud; ...

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FReepmail me if you want to be added to or deleted from this Ping List.

More 2nd Amendment related articles on FR's Bang List.

14 posted on 04/01/2023 7:33:38 AM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Twotone; Joe Brower
"This bill is a half-measure and is not what gun owners were promised. It isn't true constitutional carry because it doesn't include an open carry provision. This bill is weak and failed leadership on part of Gov. DeSantis and the Republican legislative leadership. Gun owners deserve better," Matt Collins, a former gun lobbyist who lives in Central Florida, said in a statement.

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A. One bite at a time.

15 posted on 04/01/2023 7:36:03 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: srmanuel
last week I was in a restaurant in a very rural area of Florida, some guys came in from hunting turkeys, one guy had a sidearm openly carrying and no one said anything, it was cool to see.

I didn't see nuttin'!

16 posted on 04/01/2023 7:37:09 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: Twotone

If you intend to carry outside FL… you still need a FL license


17 posted on 04/01/2023 7:42:26 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Open carry is vulgar. It should be legal but I think a little discretion is appropriate. Strolling into public places flashing a gun freaks people out unnecessarily IMHO.


18 posted on 04/01/2023 8:22:19 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Vaquero

“In Florida where no permit is needed to buy a handgun it should have no impact.”

Florida has a three day waiting period if you do not have a concealed carry permit. That’s is the issue, does the new law revoke that three day wait.


19 posted on 04/01/2023 8:28:59 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: gibsonguy

“Open carry is vulgar. It should be legal but I think a little discretion is appropriate. Strolling into public places flashing a gun freaks people out unnecessarily IMHO.”

Only said by liberal minded people. Fear drives liberals, not facts.

Fact is in every place open carry is allowed, no one gives a damn. In fact, fact, not fear, fact, people feel a little safer knowing others are willing to help protect them.


20 posted on 04/01/2023 8:30:42 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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