Posted on 03/28/2023 1:33:27 PM PDT by Perseverando
Grace isn’t cheap. Grace cost the very life of the Son of God.
But grace is free.
Sorry you modern-day Pharisees reject the grace of Christ as your forefathers did.
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he says, Behold, the days come, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, says the Lord.Heb. 8:7:13.For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more
. In that he says, A new covenant, he has made the first old. Now that which decays and waxes old is ready to vanish away.
Or this?
And all things are of God, who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and has given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and has committed unto us the word of reconciliation.2 Cor. 5:18-19.
You try to play God imputing people's sins to them not knowing the scripture or the power of God. You are of your Pharisee forefathers who Jesus said was of the devil.
Funny how you are so willing to twist scripture and ignore/reject Jesus's admonition to "go and sin no more." Didn't like that part, huh? Guess Jesus was being to much of a pharisee for you.
If you really believe that sweet little Audrey Hale was forgiven for murdering 3 adults and 3 innocent little children, and still on a rampage of trying to kill responding police officers and probably more adults and children at the school, I have some serious issues about who exactly is the "god" you follow.
Yeah, I got your pharisee.
You ignore the truth here. He said, “go and sin no more” BECAUSE he had given her the gift of no condemnation, the condemnation of the law being the main source of committing sin (Romans Chapt. 7; 1 Cor. 15:56; etc.), the gift of no condemnation setting people free from the love of sin.
You are on the wrong side of this because you love to condemn sinners something the Pharisees always did in their self-righteous arrogance which you display here, and Jesus never did then or now.
Rots a Ruck.
I quoted Scripture to show that murder is of Satan and not of God.
I then left as a separate issue, the repentance and forgiveness of the murderer.
I cannot comprehend how you jumped to your wrong conclusion that I was “playing God”.
Yup... Here it comes. And STILL no mention in much of the 'mainstream media' that she was trans.
Is your sin of God or of Satan?
24-36-48-72.....for the victim card formation spew.
You are on the wrong side of this because you love to condemn sinners something the Pharisees always did in their self-righteous arrogance which you display here, and Jesus never did then or now.
Rots a Ruck.
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’
23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Matt 7:21-23
Don't mean to be judgmental, just inspecting the fruit. Audrey Hale was in the process (and had) committed multiple pre-mediated murders. Clearly she was unrepentant.
Not sorry. I can't accept your Joel Osteen (I'm OK. You're OK. Don't worry. Be happy. If it feels good, do it, but keep those checks coming in) theology.
Don't be deceived and don't deceive others.
How did you manage to try to jump the subject to the ad hominem of *my* sin?
You've jumped from an unwarranted and inexplicable conclusion, and now jumped further to a non sequitur.
Can you try writing (in your own words, use crayon if you must) what your original point was?
Your prior disputant suggested that whoever committed murder had turned away from God.
You appeared to disagree.
I quoted two Scriptures showing that murder was of Satan and not of God.
From that you accused me of playing God, and quoted some irrelevant Scripture.
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to say murder is not of God, is a completely different statement, than saying God cannot forgive murder.
You appear to believe they are the same, and then to be lashing out at anyone who disagrees.
Can you PLEASE try explaining from the beginning of the conversation, the actual point you were first trying to make?
“Can you PLEASE try explaining from the beginning of the conversation, the actual point you were first trying to make?”
Maybe you should have done this, but I’ll do it for you...
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4141528/posts?page=27#27
To: No name given
Easy does it.
A lot of Christian families are dysfunctional, just like Isaac’s and Jacob’s’ families were dysfunctional in the OT.
Most likely she HAS accepted Christ. Most children of Christian parents do, even if they turn away later.
Remember, Jesus says he would NEVER forsake us and Hebrews 8 and 10 promises that God will NEVER remember our sins and iniquities.
God is more just, righteous, and good than we know.
I still don't see how that leads to jumping down my throat for "playing God." cf Moses was a murderer; David suborned the Philistines knocking off one of The Thirty, to cover up his adulterously knocking up the guy's wife.
OK, well as you can see, I’m surrounded by self-righteous and arrogant modern-day Pharisees, descendants from the ones Jesus confronted.
Thought you were one of them jumping into the mix when you did.
I think you were trying to make a point to me. Exactly what point were you making relative to the discussion/debate?
Solely that it *looked like* you were disputing that “anyone that murders has turned away from God”.
It appears you took that to mean “is forever out of God’s Grace” which is not what I meant. Just the murder itself being, bad.
Hence my reply.
All sin including murders are "bad" but condemned, judged, and forgiven 2000 years ago on the cross of Christ.
You got that right.
A grade 12 in our school told all her friends at school that if they do not accept her homosexuality then they hate her. My daughter and others said they definitely do not hate her but just don’t agree with homosexuality.
Yeah, they are just trying so hard to divide us.
The Tennessee school shooter just happened to kill the two best friends of the governor’s wife at the school in which she used to teach?
Yes, I’d like to see this manifesto.— Jason “Storm Chaser” Nelson (@RealJasonNelson) March 29, 2023
I know close to where I live the Anglican diocese kicked members from its Church building because they would not embrace LGBT. The diocese owns the building not the members, although I think a court case is in the works on this.
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