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Electric Cars Are Bankrupting the Auto Industry...Only a government ban on cars can save them.
Front Page Magazine ^ | March 28, 2023 by Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 03/28/2023 5:40:57 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: dangus
When you read that a car costs $220,000 but sells for $80,000, what they really mean is that all of the expenditure to bring the car to market divided by the number of cars ALREADY sold is $220,000. If you’re trying to see whether Ford should continue to make electrical cars, you need to ask what the cost of the NEXT car is.

Yup. I can't recall who said it, and I'm paraphrasing, but it was a newspaper magnate decades ago who said the first print is expensive, the rest are just cost of materials.

61 posted on 03/28/2023 7:28:34 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: dfwgator

I have found it interesting that all the old leftist hippies and beatniks would drive VWs from the NAZIs. When I had the realization decades ago that they were of the same stripe as the NAZIs, it made more sense.


62 posted on 03/28/2023 7:32:15 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: Red Badger
I noticed a Rivian truck at the Autozone pats store a couple of months ago...

The driver came out and explained to admiring car fans how it was all electric

Tail gate open and close
Bed cover open and lift up.
Front storage open
Front storage refrigerated box
Side panel storage open and shut
Passenger and driver side door handles

With all the electrics I guess the range in winter sucks.

63 posted on 03/28/2023 7:40:28 AM PDT by spokeshave (Proud Boys, Angry Dads and Grumpy Grandads.)
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To: spokeshave

I saw one in Destin, FL a couple of months ago.........................


64 posted on 03/28/2023 7:42:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

This article is totally full of BS. Tesla is making 20% profit every car. That’s how they have invested 20 billion dollars in new factories, have virtually NO corporate debt and 20 billion dollars cash. Other car makers are failing because they are bloated, not innovative, have hundreds of billions of dollars in corporate debt and are burdened with $5,000 per car in union costs.


65 posted on 03/28/2023 7:51:35 AM PDT by POWG
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To: POWG

I drove by their Austin facility, biggest building I’ve ever seen.


66 posted on 03/28/2023 7:52:44 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Red Badger

By 2030, portable EMP guns will be available. Concerned anarcho eco-fascists will drive thru government parking lots and fry every electric vehicle owned by the government. The government will be unable to go anywhere or do anything. That’s just a start.

No electric vehicles will exist by 2031. They will all be fried.


67 posted on 03/28/2023 8:02:18 AM PDT by sergeantdave (AI is the next iteration of a copy and paste machine.)
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To: POWG

Tesla, besides being run far better than any legacy American auto maker in terms of costs, also has a reputation for producing an EV. The big 3 have a reputation for screwing up innovation.

Quirky, boutique products (EVs) are a completely different market than what the big 3 are good at.


68 posted on 03/28/2023 8:04:54 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Yo-Yo

Exactly.


69 posted on 03/28/2023 8:08:29 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Red Badger

What the article doesn’t discuss are the effects on manufacturers because of CAFE standards

Ford has the largest fleet of trucks and was forced, years ago, to manufacture hybrids, their one electric vehicle and eliminate cars and sedans from manufacturing

Trucks and hybrids are the most profitable vehicles for Ford.

The fines for exceeding CAFE standards would be worse than losing a couple billion on electric vehicles.


70 posted on 03/28/2023 8:13:43 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: dfwgator

The Tesla factories in Texas and Berlin are only ramped up to about 20% of designed capacity so far. The new factory to be built in Mexico will be larger than either of them and use even more updated production methods.


71 posted on 03/28/2023 8:41:04 AM PDT by POWG
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To: POWG

Dang.


72 posted on 03/28/2023 8:42:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Justa

I live in winter climate and have a 15 year old energy sucking plasma TV. My take is it revenue neutral. I only watch it for a few hours a day. It cranks out some heat which comes in handy in the winter, but does increase AC usage in the summer. The picture is still great, so no reason to buy a new one. Most of the light bulbs in my house are LEDs


73 posted on 03/28/2023 9:03:17 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: dfwgator

I’ve been checking out a horse.


74 posted on 03/28/2023 9:20:42 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Eleutheria5

Microchip, a US firm, is making a lot of uPs right here in the US. They supply most of those that are used in cars.


75 posted on 03/28/2023 9:22:26 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Justa
They burn 24 watts but have the output of 100s.

Actually, they put out less than 24 watts. A much bigger percentage of their output goes to visible light than for incandescent bulbs.

76 posted on 03/28/2023 9:25:24 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: rivercat
...last longer...

They don't last longer. I put them in my office, and replace them more often than I replaced incandescent bulbs. I had florescent eight foot tubes in my basement that lasted twenty years, now the LED-based versions are blinking out after just two years.

77 posted on 03/28/2023 9:28:51 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: EVO X

Yeah, some sets just have an unbeatable picture. My Samsung 46” LCD I bought for 4700 from Best Buy in 2007 has an awesome picture. The Ex is still using it. Power hungry tho and cranks out heat. I bought an LG 3D to replace it but picture is not as good. Much less power and heat from it tho.

I would walk thru a big box store and check which LED models have the best picture. Then look online for a good price and have it shipped. Almost all are under a grand. That plasma could seriously hurt someone if it fell on them. : ) I’d use a wood stove to replace the heat.


78 posted on 03/28/2023 9:29:10 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: sergeantdave

People so very badly overestimate EMP. There will be no portable EMP guns by 2030. Besides, EMP isn’t a magic destruction raygun. It can be managed rather easily.


79 posted on 03/28/2023 9:32:01 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Justa
That plasma could seriously hurt someone if it fell on them.

It is indeed a heavy TV. I can't lift off the table it is on by myself. It has a solid base, so tipping over is unlikely unless in an earthquake..

80 posted on 03/28/2023 9:55:40 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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