AndyTheBear wrote: “I do not know how often this specific claim is made.”
Very frequently. In effect, anytime anyone makes the claim that the vaccines do not prevent covid, they are making this claim.
AndyTheBear wrote: “As a matter of fact, many pro-jab proponents stated plainly that if one got these jabs (they used the word vaccine) that one would not get covid.”
That claim might have been truthful at the time it was made.
Often overlooked is the virus has mutated. Efficiency against the original variant could well have been close to 100% and approaching 60% against the latest variants. Those are not mutally exclusive.
Sorry, I still don't know. Please forgive me, but I do not hold you to be a reliable source. I might even give you negative epistemic weight.
Efficiency against the original variant could well have been close to 100% and approaching 60% against the latest variants.
I agree those are not logically exclusive. But it does not save the claim by Fauci and others. The protection (to whatever extent it really existed) faded too quickly for the claim to be true without some provision to the claim.
As far as we know this claim *might* have been true: "It is very unlikely you will get covid-19 in the week following one of your mRNA boosters".
However this claim is certainly not true: "It is very unlikely you will get covid-19 during this pandemic outbreak if you take one of these covid-19 vaccines".
I allow it is unfair to take them literally as a promise that 100% of the population who takes a jab will not get covid-19 ever. However considering how fast the protection (to whatever extent it really ever existed) fizzled out the statement requires the speakers mother or somebody with an ulterior motive to be defendable.