Posted on 03/26/2023 12:56:02 PM PDT by george76
This is the last gasp of a dying church (and a dying civilization). A culture that has no identity of its own and welcomes those who wish to conquer and subjugate it is a culture that will soon be a matter of history. These two archbishops are signposts on the way to the demise of the Church of Sweden, and of Sweden itself as a non-Muslim country.
“The Archbishop: Muslims can join the Church of Sweden,” translated from “Ärkebiskopen: Muslimer kan vara med i Svenska kyrkan,” Samnytt, January 26, 2023 (thanks to L.):
Outgoing Archbishop Antje Jackelén received harsh criticism for her religious relativist stance, not least in relation to the controversial religious ideology of Islam. She adopted the Swedish variant of “Allahu akbar” as her language of choice and said she could not put the peaceful healer Jesus before the warrior and mass murderer Muhammad as a prophet. Now Jackelen’s successor goes a step further and welcomes all Muslims to the Church of Sweden.
Martin Modéus has been appointed as the new archbishop in the Church of Sweden. For more conservative and traditional Christians, it is out of the frying pan and into the fire after eight years with the controversial Antje Jackelén. In a debate article in the left-liberal Dagens Nyheter, Modeus presents himself as the heir and further developer of the religious relativism for which his predecessors became famous and criticized.
The fact that Modéus is speaking out in this way is caused, among other things, by the fact that the Center Party’s supposed new party leader, Muharrem Demirok, who has already been in several storms before taking office, has also declared that he is a Muslim but also a member of the Church of Sweden. Many have reacted against this, but Modéus takes the opposite stance – being a Muslim and not a Christian does not constitute an obstacle to being part of the Church of Sweden, he believes.
That the Christian way of “relating to faith” would be a requirement in the Church of Sweden, Modéus emphatically opposes – all ways, even the Muslim, are equally legitimate and needed in the country’s churches.
A requirement to be a Christian in order to be part of a Christian congregation is regarded by the new archbishop as a recent “ideologization of the concept of religion.” However, the claim is contradicted by many who believe that what is new and ideological instead is the idea that it is just as well to believe in Allah and Muhammad in a Christian congregation as in Jehovah and Jesus.
In the Church of Sweden, under the leadership of Archbishop Martin Modéus, “you define what you believe in based on your own terms.” According to Modéus, the fact that the Church of Sweden receives a diversity of non-Christian beliefs “is an asset.”
Modéus wants the country’s churches to function more as clubs for general social community than places where a common Christian belief is shared. In this, he claims to have been inspired by one of the ideologues of Dagens Nyheter’s editorial page, Björn Wiman.
The Church of Sweden has lost many members. This is due, among other things, to the fact that more and more Swedes have adopted a secular outlook on life, but in many cases also to the fact that you do not recognize yourself in the “left-wing church” it has turned into, which nowadays functions more as one of the Social Democrats’ many corporative legs in Swedish society.
However, many Swedes remain members, by birth and unfettered habit, that they have not come to terms with leaving or are simply not aware that they are members of something they never actively chose to join. Even outspoken critics retain often their membership in order not to lose the right to vote in church elections and thus the opportunity to influence the future direction of the Church of Sweden.
However, the Church of Sweden needs new members to replace those who fall away, and the large group of immigrant Muslims is therefore attractive. According to Modéus, it is by opening the church doors to them that you can still claim to be a “people’s church.” That the church should be something only for believers or cultural Christians is “far too narrow,” the archbishop asserts in the DN article.
A C- sophomore student from a good Bible college is imminently more qualified to lead a church than this fool.
Convenience store clerk just before getting riddled with bullets by a thug:
“Snickers, Payday, we got all the candy bars right here in front of me. Got no ahk bars.”
Where the Church of Sweden is today, the ELCA will be in five years.
Baal, Molech, Chemosh, what’s the difference, archbishop?
Talk about blasphemy, apostasy and heresy!
Dead Country Walking
This so called church is not Christian at all, but CINO: Christian in name only!
Along with Germany, France and the UK.
Sounds like this “archbishop” plays for the other team already.
Sweden ... just another Islamic conquest.
The church then just becomes a country club without 18 holes.
No American bishop has screamed “allahu akbar” yet, but that day is surely coming judging by the rapid islamization of the country after 9/11/2001 and the acceptance that Islam is a religion of peace.
They can join if they wish but I doubt one of them would be willing to repeat the Apostle’s Creed. But who is left to disqualify them?
Demon possessed meet mush in Sweden. Demon possessed will win that one every time.
If this is a church, it is a church of Satan, not Jesus.
That the church should be something only for believers or cultural Christians is “far too narrow,” the archbishop asserts...
The archbishop better try and find his Bible and read it. It might be around somewhere, but it seems he has badly "misplaced" it long ago. Frankly, I doubt he knows what a Christian is. He isn't one, for sure. Jesus would spew him out of His mouth.
I’d bet a lot of money that she’s a lesbian....
The Bishop must be off his meds.
The Creed that I said this morning at Divine Liturgy, which Lutherans also use, Muslims deny point-by-point. That’s fine, because Muslims are not Christians, so let’s not pretend that they are or can be. Outside of this being outrageous apostasy, it is also an act of desperation to extend the life of an institution that needs to die before it can do more harm.
Gustavus Adolphus is spinning in his grave.
So... not LCMS, then.
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