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White House gives advice to Russia, which is worried about its tanks in Ukraine being destroyed by depleted uranium
Ukrainska Pravda ^ | March 22, 2023 | Ukrainska Pravda

Posted on 03/22/2023 7:00:01 PM PDT by familyop

John Kirby, Coordinator for Strategic Communications at the National Security Council at the White House, has stated that depleted uranium rounds are a common type of munition, and that Russia's claims that they are a step toward escalation are groundless.

Source: Kirby, during a briefing on 22 March, reported by European Pravda

The White House representative said that the United States is not providing Ukraine with depleted uranium munitions.

"There have been health studies done on depleted uranium munitions, it is not a radioactive threat, it is not anywhere close to going into the nuclear realm. This is a commonplace type of munition that is used particularly for its armour-piercing capabilities," he emphasised.

"If Russia is deeply concerned about the welfare of their tanks and tank soldiers, the safest thing for them to do is move them across the border, get them out of Ukraine," Kirby added.

Background: On Monday, the UK confirmed that it will supply Ukraine with depleted uranium rounds. Russian President Vladimir Putin later criticised the decision, falsely claiming that it was a weapon with a "nuclear component".

Depleted uranium is a waste product of the uranium enrichment process, which involves the separation of the uranium-235 isotope from natural uranium. Due to its high density, depleted uranium is also used in the armour of military vehicles (in particular, M1 Abrams tanks) and armour-piercing rounds.

NATO countries are known to have used munitions containing depleted uranium during the Kosovo operation, which is why they were accused of increasing the incidence of leukaemia.

However, according to experts, such rounds existed in the Soviet Union, and Russian troops have already used them in Ukraine during the full-scale war. In addition, there is no reason to believe that depleted uranium is related to nuclear weapons, as Putin has claimed.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boilerplate; bullsqueeze; depleteduranium; globohomo; spokeshole; spokesholejohnkirby; steptoescalation; steptowardescalation; whereisgreta; whereisgretathunberg
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To: Freedom4US

My senior class advisor in ROTC was exposed to Agent Orange in Vietnam, and died from cancer about 15 years ago. He was a fantastic officer and a great man.


21 posted on 03/22/2023 8:19:50 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: familyop
Depleted Uranium:

Trashing Russian armor since 1991.

22 posted on 03/22/2023 8:28:29 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: familyop

Is it just me or does anyone else think that being on the receiving end of a high density, depleted uranium artillery or tank round is much more hazardous to your health than any long term risk should you happen to survive?


23 posted on 03/22/2023 8:45:27 PM PDT by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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To: familyop

Such a divergence. I read this and just see a swarmy coward on our side. It only makes me side with Russia more.

And after dealing with the hidden Stasi-like domestic surveillance in the US due to my political activism online for conservatism, I was already viewing “our” side as quite the enemy.


24 posted on 03/22/2023 9:22:23 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (DO NOT send me sensitive information - http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/surveillance)
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To: Freedom4US

I had a football coach who went through shell shock in Nam. He regained his balance pretty quick, and a hearing aid solved the rest the problem. He didn’t complain.


25 posted on 03/22/2023 11:18:27 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: ansel12
"The VA doesn’t think it is much of a problem and that includes vets with some still inside of them.

Twenty-five years of studying them.
"

Yes. We both know that the real concern of the Russian bosses is that depleted uranium rounds punch holes in tanks. Reminds me of the fresh air on an AT range where live rounds were fired. *Sni-i-i-i-f* "Ahhhh." ;)

26 posted on 03/22/2023 11:29:47 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: familyop
[...] and that Russia's claims that they are a step toward escalation are groundless.

Quite correct!

When a woman being attacked by a rapist knees the rapist in the groin, that isn't an "escalation."

That is "self-defense."

Regards,

27 posted on 03/23/2023 12:10:49 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: familyop

If reports are all false and that **** doesn’t cause cancers and birth defects, then Brits and Americans should invite Russians to blow some of that ammo off against some steel armor plate in London and DC...


28 posted on 03/23/2023 1:46:02 AM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: familyop
“”If Russia is deeply concerned about the welfare of their tanks and tank soldiers, the safest thing for them to do is move them across the border, get them out of Ukraine,” Kirby added.”

This is the same simple minded pap we get from every simple minded neocon (foreign and domestic) here, daily.

29 posted on 03/23/2023 3:35:14 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust!)
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To: HollyB

That article from the radical left source you prefer to use against America and our military is claimed about any and all pollutants from the American military.

Here is the source.
Editorial Agenda:
Environmentalist Socialism
Anti-Anti-Terrorism
Bias against Republicans
“The Intercept is a left wing news website financially supported by eBay founder Pierre Omidyar. It was co-founded in 2014 by left wing journalist Jeremy Scahill, lawyer and journalist Glenn Greenwald, and documentary filmmaker Laura Poitras.”
https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/the-intercept/


30 posted on 03/23/2023 3:57:12 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: familyop

Heavy Metal man...


31 posted on 03/23/2023 4:03:26 AM PDT by sit-rep ( )
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To: BlackbirdSST

“”This is the same simple minded pap we get from every simple minded neocon (foreign and domestic) here, daily.””

Yours is a radical Kremlin position against America and NATO policy, the U.N. and the formal position of 141 of the world’s nations.

Your radical Kremlin position won the support of only 7 nations, Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea, Syria, Russia, Mali and Nicaragua.


32 posted on 03/23/2023 4:06:13 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ganeemead

As it is they will be used by Ukraine, within Ukraine.

Shells that the Russians also have, for use in Ukraine.


33 posted on 03/23/2023 4:10:01 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: DesertRhino

“That teenage girl worthy snark is what we get today from a retired US Navy Admiral. Our pussified military at it again.”

Aside from your childish anti-woman language, it is the same position America would have expressed at its strongest during history, “get-out if you fear for your invading army”.


34 posted on 03/23/2023 4:16:03 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: familyop

Depleted uranium is U238, and is only very slightly radioactive. There are potassium isotopes that are more radioactive.

But it’s still a heavy metal, like arsenic or lead or cadmium or mercury, and chemically it’s still very toxic.


35 posted on 03/23/2023 6:13:02 AM PDT by jdege
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To: ansel12

You certainly are missing the information in the article which explains the damage these weapons have caused to children.

I’m very familiar with the Intercept. I’d hardly call them far left although they certainly screwed over Greenwald.

The information holds true, regardless of the source.


36 posted on 03/23/2023 10:52:19 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: HollyB

The leftist publication you are promoting is talking about all pollutants around military bases and operations, it is, and has been, a staple of the left.

Col. Macgregor puts to rest the Russian propaganda about the depleted uranium rounds.

Macgregor: “it’s very good it’s very effective I could attest to that personally and as far as I can tell no one has contracted cancer from being near it around it or having used it
and I certainly loaded rounds and it’s been a great deal of time around it and I was also on the battlefield where we fought after the war and saw evidence for the damage that inflicted

I don’t know what President Putin’s information is and the Russians are pretty sober minded and normally I think if they knew what they were dealing with they would not make these comments suggesting that this had quote unquote nuclear implications but perhaps they’ve decided that this has some propaganda value that that harms us in the public eye I have no idea.”


37 posted on 03/23/2023 11:04:42 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Ahh I missed that. Sorry. Not my intention.


38 posted on 03/23/2023 11:12:01 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: HollyB

Thanks.


39 posted on 03/23/2023 11:17:44 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: HollyB
Uranium bullets? That is the least worry. Drones drop small bombs through open tank hatches.

BTW........ there is a report today that Ukranian pilots are in fact training on A 10's that shoot the uranium tank destroying 30 mm bullets

Check this out.........

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=tank+killing+drones+youtube&&view=detail&mid=4C3AF6282AE3B03F2C234C3AF6282AE3B03F2C23&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dtank%2Bkilling%2Bdrones%2Byoutube%26FORM%3DHDRSC6

40 posted on 03/23/2023 11:22:29 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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