Posted on 03/22/2023 6:00:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
only a philosophy prof would say something so stupid
there are thousands of jobs that require intellegence training and commitment. Over egging one field is ridiculous.
Pretty soon industries will again run their own schools like in the old days
Bank School
IBM School
Insurance School
Automotive repair schools...some do this already
Cooking school
Nursing school
Medical School
Hamburger U
Microsoft School
Accounting School
and on and on
No education establishment in the mix. No need for degrees, Just certificates
You probably need to plan for 2 or 3 “careers” preferably fields unrelated to each other.
Yep. I have a PhD and many years experience, and prorated to full time employment a plumber or electrician makes more money than I do.
Most idiots that go to college are too stupid to become electricians.
Back in the day (say 200 years ago) philosophy and what we today consider the other liberal arts were the concern of churchmen, aristocrats and gentlemen of independent means. This was considered helpful training in taking up their main responsibility as the natural leaders of society.
Law was a trade. Medicine was a trade. The arts were trades. STEM was either a trade, or a branch of philosophy (see above).
Many prosperous tradesmen and merchants (and their wives and daughters) did dabble in the liberal arts, but it was a hobby.
I tell my 11 year old this all the time.
RE: there are thousands of jobs that require intellegence training and commitment. Over egging one field is ridiculous.
I’m sure the Professor is just using “Electrician” as an example of the many fields a person can train for a lucrative career besides going to college, not as THE only field to get into.
Breaker panels aren’t complicated, at all.
Yeah. I know. I just haven't had occasion to mess with them. Mostly I didn't understand how full you could get with it. I thought 200 amps meant that was the limit. Now I know better, but my son is going through an electrician's apprenticeship, so I'll have him root around in it when he learns more.
Beau is both an Electrician and a Plumber. Though retired, he keeps his licenses up to date for the occasional side-gig off the farm.
Wisconsin has excellent Apprenticeship programs starting at the High School level - and still goes wanting for candidates!
Those that are smart enough to go this route can count on being paid well, graduating with no debt and always being busy!
https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/apprenticeship/
Yep, prof was just being rhetorical, trying to crack open some minds with the sharpest chisel he could think of.
“If I had my life to live over again I’d be a plumber”
Albert Einstein
“The problem with being an electrician is that you sometimes get your hands dirty.”
Yep! Industrial/commercial is the way to go. Cold in winter and hot in summer. Sometimes filthy.
A short time in my 30+ career was spent working in a “protein plant” next door to a chicken plant. Awful offal! Ofttimes the floor was moving.
In consideration of keyboards I won’t elaborate further.
I absolutely agree! Electrician, welder, steel fabricator, plumber and pipefitter, heavy equipment operator, Machinist, carpenter, Auto mechanic.
I’ve done them all and was never out of work. Never. I am now retired on a decent pension.
On the other hand, I’ve known some who sat around all day doing nothing, with their thumb up their butt because..
“I don’t want to do that kind of work!”...
while waiting for the chimera of a “management position” in jobs they were not qualified for.
That is my experience as well. We’ve spent three generations telling people that white collar jobs are good and blue collar jobs are bad, to the point that now blue collar jobs pay better than white collar jobs, just because of the scarcity of the required skills.
Oh yeah I want to pull heavy gauge wire in the heat, cold and rain when I am in my 50’s.
My daughter has a masters in accounting. Makes well over 100k.
Her husband is a lawyer, he makes around 100k.
Both are conservative and expecting their second child.
Things are going great for them.
Stay away from stupid degree programs and college can make you employable.
People romanticising blue collar trades never worked construction in the heat, cold and rain. You all crack me up.
The funny thing is performing basic residential electrical and plumbing tasks are so easy. People get ripped off.
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