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Proposal to seal criminal records advances in New York Senate
spectrumlocalnews.com ^ | 3/21/23 | Nick Reisman

Posted on 03/22/2023 5:00:00 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU

A bill that aims to seal many criminal records in New York is advancing in the state Senate after it was approved by a key committee in the chamber.

But full passage of the measure remains in doubt once again this year as supporters hope to either have the provision included in an agreed-to state budget in the coming days or approved by June 8, the final scheduled day of the legislative session.

The proposal, known as the Clean Slate Act, would seal criminal records of people who have completed their sentences in New York in order to make it easier for them to obtain jobs and housing. In recent months, supporters have made changes to the bill to satisfy concerns sex offenders would not be covered.

Still, concerns remain from Republicans. Senate Minority Leader Robert Ortt on Monday at a joint budget committee meeting cited the measure as potentially making the state less safe as lawmakers are being pressured to address other measures in the criminal justice system this year like the state's bail laws.

"The current one-house doesn't make communities safer, it also has a resolution advancing Clean Slate, an issue our conference strongly opposes because of the public safety needs for New Yorkers," Ortt said.

But supporters of the legislation point to studies that have shown that people who have had their records sealed were less likely than members of the general public to be convicted of a crime.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectrumlocalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: crime; housing; ny
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they've already sealed eviction records and now more pro-criminal legislation. Not surprising due to leftard demonrats.
1 posted on 03/22/2023 5:00:00 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU
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To: AbolishCSEU

So some thug beats up an elderly Asian woman, gets sentenced to 6 months, is released in 2, has his record sealed?

How about the second time he does it? Third?

EC


2 posted on 03/22/2023 5:05:44 AM PDT by Ex-Con777
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To: AbolishCSEU

As a blanket idea I agree it is a bad idea.

As a controlled idea it has merit.

If one commits a non violent crime. Then turns their life around.

Does the whole country need to know with a few clicks of a mouse. That 20 years ago you did such.


3 posted on 03/22/2023 5:14:54 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: AbolishCSEU

Could we see your last Social Security statement please.


4 posted on 03/22/2023 5:16:20 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: AbolishCSEU

May we have copies of your last seven years of income tax filings?


5 posted on 03/22/2023 5:17:24 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: AbolishCSEU

Could we have copies of your last 12 months of banking statements?


6 posted on 03/22/2023 5:19:28 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: AbolishCSEU

My cousin in Connecticut didn’t send me any paperwork for you.


7 posted on 03/22/2023 5:20:50 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: AbolishCSEU

Maybe in the last year of a sentence convicts should be encouraged to get outside employment.

With employment housing will be easier to get after release.


8 posted on 03/22/2023 5:24:10 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: AbolishCSEU

9 posted on 03/22/2023 5:25:55 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: AbolishCSEU
...when the State becomes an accessory to the crimes of someone they let out of prison.

In Jablonski by Pahls v. United States (9th Cir. 1983) the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals determined that a mental health professional's duty to protect includes the involuntary commitment of a dangerous individual; simply warning the foreseeable victim is insufficient.

The State is warned repeatedly by the foreseeable victims and here, the politicians in the State of New York want to hide the crimes of the wards of the State and then release them to commit more crimes against those same foreseeable victims.

10 posted on 03/22/2023 5:53:13 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: AbolishCSEU

Makes sense

If Obama could do it, it should be available to every career criminal.


11 posted on 03/22/2023 6:00:41 AM PDT by himno hero (had'nff)
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"New York: Life with out the consequences … "

12 posted on 03/22/2023 6:10:46 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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13 posted on 03/22/2023 6:22:38 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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14 posted on 03/22/2023 6:23:51 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: AbolishCSEU

This is going to blow up right in the Yawkers’ mugs. Suppose Chubby Cheeks gets a conviction of President Trump. Under their dumbass “Clear Slate Act”, not to be confused with the Clean Air Act, they will have to “seal” President Trump’s records. ROTFL. Retards.


15 posted on 03/22/2023 6:32:53 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free the J6 Heroes! Now! Heroic J6 Lives Matter. (HJ6LM))
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Who is planning a run for higher office that benefits from this?


16 posted on 03/22/2023 6:34:31 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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But supporters of the legislation point to studies that have shown that people who have had their records sealed were less likely than members of the general public to be convicted of a crime.

The design of the study, the selection of the subjects, the definition of general public, and the results are buried in a 90 page Harvard Law Review article.

I don't believe it. It defies common sense and human nature. Perhaps if you took the one in a thousand inmates who experienced a profound conversion behind bars and lived a life of service for twenty years, you would find that. But it doesn't scale to.the masses.

17 posted on 03/22/2023 6:37:30 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: Brian Griffin

As a landlord in NYS I ask for all of this proof but I do a record check and get verification from the source b/c all this stuff can be forged with pdf altering software


18 posted on 03/22/2023 6:43:51 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: heartwood

Prospective study: assign inmates at random to having their records expunged or not. Didn’t happen.

Retrospective study: look at the inmates who.had their records expunged. Ignore the fact that these were extraordinary people, and that a governor signed off on them individually?

Or, minor offenses expunged after five years, if no subsequent offenses?

I could live with the last.


19 posted on 03/22/2023 6:44:39 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: heartwood

On Linkedin there is a NY attorney who is touting a “study” that says cashless bail doesn’t lead to recidivism and higher rates of crime.

Of course all the Pub Defs are nodding their bobble heads in agreement.


20 posted on 03/22/2023 6:46:48 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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