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To: Venkman

Ukraine was not conducting ethnic cleansing.

“Ethnic Russians” or “Russian speakers are not “suppressed” as you claim - I am basing my conclusion on the experience I had in hosting refugees from Ukraine here in Poland — I live right next to the border, Most of the refugees I helped were escaping Kyiv but also those escaping Donetsk and Luhansk

All were primarily Russian speakers. Some identified as “ethnic Russian”, but they all said they were Ukrainian

I have asked them (we’re in contact with quite a few of them even though they moved either back to Kyiv (for the Kyiv folks) or to Krakow/Warszawa for others - anyway so I asked them if they, the Russian ethnic people or Russian speakers felt “oppressed”

The response, the overwhelming response from them regarding this was - utter bewilderment. They all said that they didn’t feel oppressed, suppressed for being Russian or /Russian speakers. They all also were P*ssed off wth putin for “saving” them by destroying their cities, their homes

Before 2014 they felt close to Russia. After Putin’s invasion in 2022, they identify as Ukrainian - and they were taking efforts to speak only Ukrainian — as a personal sign of defiance against Putin

So Putin has actually turned Russian ethnics in Ukraine against being “Russian”

Furthermore, I have colleagues who live and work in Krakow and have lived there since 2014 — Russian “ethnics”, Russian speakers who fled Putin’s 2014 invasion and came to Poland, not to Russia.

So don’t repeat the Putinist propaganda please


19 posted on 03/21/2023 1:37:40 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Says you. Your anecdotal stories are not convincing.


21 posted on 03/21/2023 3:19:02 PM PDT by Venkman
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