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Zelensky’s War on Christianity
FrontPage Magazine ^ | March 21, 2023 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 03/21/2023 8:53:37 AM PDT by Kazan

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To: Kazan

I support shutting down the KGB spy stations that masquerade as churches.

If that chafes you then good. You need chafing.


21 posted on 03/21/2023 9:44:11 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Kazan
When it turns out a part of some religion is intent on destroying hyour country any reasonable government never does anything to impede the people in that religion who are trying to destroy the country. That is why our leadership has always supported radical Islamists around the world and in the USA. /s

No American president has ever shut down a mosque, or done anything to impede religious figures who are acting as agents of a hostile foreign power. /s

The Ukrainian government is not anti-Christian, they are anti Russian state operatives pretending to be priests.

22 posted on 03/21/2023 9:44:25 AM PDT by freeandfreezing (Do I need the sarcasm tag?)
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To: Nervous Tick
"Precisely what about his evidence do you dispute?"

It is not the evidence he presents,,,it is the evidence that he fails to present. What actions has he taken against Roman Catholics, Baptists, Evangelicals...from the article, apparently none.

23 posted on 03/21/2023 9:46:46 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: Nervous Tick
Robert Spencer says otherwise. Unlike you, he actually supports his position with facts and evidence.

Spencer is just offering his opinion, along with some "facts" that may or may not be true, and which don't support his conclusions.

Spencer does admit that the Russian Orthodox church has been closely linked to the KGB and other Russian intelligence operations. The denials of some monks, who may well be Russian agents or sympathizers is hardly credible evidence. Don't most Islamic terrorists deny they are doing anything but practicing their religion until they take action?

24 posted on 03/21/2023 9:48:56 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Kazan
If Russia were doing all that, you'd be going bonkers here.

So Kazan, will you condemn the actions the USA took against ISIS and other Islamic groups operating in the USA? If it is wrong for a government to shut down religious groups involved in an attempt to destroy the country isn't it also wrong for the USA to arrest people like Omar Abdel-Rahman?

By your twisted logic it is. Unlike those of us who think there is nothing wrong with banning a church whose members are planning and assisting in terror attacks on civilians.

25 posted on 03/21/2023 9:55:14 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Blurb2350

Thank you. Much appreciated.


26 posted on 03/21/2023 9:59:36 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Truth is not hate speech.)
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To: freeandfreezing
The Ukrainian government is not anti-Christian, they are anti Russian state operatives pretending to be priests.

Oh baloney. That would involve targeted arrests of specific people, not blanket actions and closures involving hundreds of locations and untold thousands of people. It's like closing all McDonalds restaurants because one or two store managers are suspected of running an illegal gambling ring on the side. This is indeed anti-Christian persecution, and yours is the sort of excuse used to lamely justify it.

27 posted on 03/21/2023 10:08:37 AM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: reg45

“...He takes the path of Henry VIII...”

Henry VIII didn’t close the Roman Catholic Church in England. Instead he chased them out of England and formed the Church of England using the same churches, priests, bishops and monasteries, changing worship from Latin to English. Instead of the Church in England it became the Church of England. And the Pope and Spanish monarchy went crazy!


28 posted on 03/21/2023 10:18:49 AM PDT by elpadre (nd )
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To: Kazan

Answer this question: Would the UK allow a church connected to the Nazi leadership function freely during the Second World War?


29 posted on 03/21/2023 10:22:29 AM PDT by Czech_Occidentalist
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To: Timber Rattler

“Utter nonsense. Garbage article”

Cryin’ like a full grown Baby.
A good full smakin’ of truth hurts!


30 posted on 03/21/2023 10:27:54 AM PDT by Right Brigade (It was better before they voted for whats his name,this must be the New World)
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To: Kazan
Put simply we have a war matrix:

1) Good guy vs Bad guy.

2) Bad guy vs Bad guy.

3) Good guy vs Good guy.

1 and 2 are the ones likely to happen. In Ukraine we have number 2.

31 posted on 03/21/2023 10:39:38 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Kazan

Well, this certainly calls for sending the little creep $2378644324 billion more.

We can’t afford more food benefits for poor families thrown out of work by “covid,” but have plenty for YukkyKraine.


32 posted on 03/21/2023 11:00:30 AM PDT by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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To: Kazan

That DOES appear to be the agenda for many. The message is you can’t be anti-totalitarian unless you embrace the LGBT agenda.


33 posted on 03/21/2023 11:25:28 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Kazan

It’s not a war on Christians as the defeatists claim. It’s a full scale, fight to the death war on Russia the invader and occupier. Anything Russian has to go.


34 posted on 03/21/2023 11:30:42 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: armydawg505
It’s not a war on Christians as the defeatists claim. It’s a full scale, fight to the death war on Russia the invader and occupier. Anything Russian has to go.

Go get 'em tough guy. Oh wait...

35 posted on 03/21/2023 11:52:33 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust!)
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To: Kazan

What an incredible clickbait headline.

It is an excellent article but it is addressing KGB connected Moscow church membership of what was 4% of the Ukrainian Orthodox in Ukraine, and since that number was established in July of 2022, it is probably far less than 4% today.
Searches are still turning up pro-Russia material.

Hardly a “war on Christianity”.


36 posted on 03/21/2023 12:02:44 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Kazan

the nazi left

is infatuated with Islam

because of the head chopping

dark age Islam Spain

is their shangra lala land

Hitler - mussolini bombed

their internationale to death

just what Russia is doing

in the Ukraine


37 posted on 03/21/2023 12:05:24 PM PDT by Firehath
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To: Kazan

“””If Russia were doing all that, you’d be going bonkers here.”””

In April 2017, the Russian Federation banned Jehovah’s Witnesses as an “extremist” organization. In the five years since that designation, law enforcement authorities across Russia have made it a regular practice to raid, detain, and arrest Jehovah’s Witnesses on “extremism” charges directly related to their peaceful religious activities. According to statistics published by Jehovah’s Witnesses, approximately 643 Witnesses have been charged with “organizing the activities of an extremist organization,” and nearly 350 individuals have been detained or arrested at some point in time. As of early October, 100 Witnesses are imprisoned in Russia for their beliefs.
https://www.uscirf.gov/news-room/uscirf-spotlight/russias-persecution-jehovahs-witnesses


Russia Seizes Property From Jehovah’s Witnesses After Banning Group
Action follows imprisonment of Danish Jehovah’s Witness and allegations that group’s members have been detained and tortured
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-seizes-property-from-jehovahs-witnesses-after-banning-group-11551885978


[Update: On April 20, Russia’s high court banned Jehovah’s Witnesses as extremists.]


Russia: Sweeping Arrests of Jehovah’s Witnesses
https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/06/28/russia-sweeping-arrests-jehovahs-witnesses


38 posted on 03/21/2023 12:12:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: elpadre

>Please explain what you mean?

He means he’s one of the pro-U trolls who post complete nonsense and respond with bitter personal insults towards anything other than fervent agreement with them.

There’s a set of pro-R trolls too. Often they eat up FR for a while slanging each other. One could make a list.


39 posted on 03/21/2023 12:52:05 PM PDT by No.6
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To: Kazan

Zelensky has been becoming increasingly like Putin as this conflict has gone on. The people of Ukraine may lose either way.


40 posted on 03/21/2023 3:51:35 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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