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Unarmed Russian soldiers run into Ukrainian fire for the sole purpose of digging trenches or carrying ammunition. Those who refuse could be killed or imprisoned, report says.
msn.com ^ | 20th March 2023 | Lloyd Lee

Posted on 03/20/2023 8:19:17 AM PDT by Cronos

Unarmed men with the sole purpose of digging trenches or carrying ammunition are being sent toward Ukrainian fire as part of Russia's unrelenting efforts to capture Bakhmut, according to Ukrainian soldiers who spoke to The New York Times.

Russia has made incremental process in Bakhmut since it waged a battle in the eastern Donetsk region more than seven months ago but at a deadly cost: A NATO official estimated five Russian soldiers died for every Ukrainian soldier killed.

A media officer for Ukraine's Third Assault Brigade, which has spent the past three months in Bakhmut, told the newspaper his unit surmised some of the fighters might be on drugs, bewildered that the men would so willingly move toward their death. Ukrainians have previously speculated that Russian soldiers might be taking drugs...

In drone footage shown to the newspaper, a lone unarmed Russian soldier could be seen briefly looking back before he continued to move toward incoming weapons fire.

"Do you see? He's not carrying a weapon," Yaroslav told the Times. "He's a digger."

Ukrainian commanders have also heard orders against desertion in intercepted phone calls or seen them written on a document found in the pocket of a dead soldier, the Times reported.

Other reported Russian strategies included sending prisoners recruited by the Wagner Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin's paramilitary organization, to the frontlines in order to draw fire and reveal a Ukrainian unit's position.

"I'll be honest. It's genius. Cruel, immoral, but effective tactics. It worked out. And it's still working in Bakhmut," one soldier told BBC.

Yaroslav told the Times most of the Russian soldiers in Bakhmut have little training but are effective at crawling and hiding underground.

"They will just crawl. Even when there are bullets flying a meter over their heads, they will just crawl."

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: ukraine
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Ruski tactics haven't changed in decades - if not centuries

1 posted on 03/20/2023 8:19:17 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Americans have done the same exact thing and refusing a direct order in combat is grounds for immediate capital punishment.


2 posted on 03/20/2023 8:23:09 AM PDT by The Louiswu
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To: Cronos

Just a quick note - Hollywood movies are fictional.


3 posted on 03/20/2023 8:24:05 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Cronos

I don’t believe for a second that Russia doesn’t have enough small arms for their soldiers. Russia has the most assault rifles in the world, over 30 million. That doesn’t count huge quantities of revolver, pistols and bolt action rifles in storage since WW2.

https://www.statista.com/chart/14422/the-militaries-with-the-most-firearms/


4 posted on 03/20/2023 8:24:39 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: Cronos

Yeah, but even the Russkies can’t keep up a 5-to-1 kill ratio, if that is true. They have maybe about 1.6 million total troops available. Ukraine has maybe 700,000. Realistically, Russia can’t even keep up a 2-1 ration; they still have a homeland defense.


5 posted on 03/20/2023 8:26:22 AM PDT by dangus ( )
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To: The Louiswu

>> Americans have done the same exact thing and refusing a direct order in combat is grounds for immediate capital punishment. <<

When did we do that?


6 posted on 03/20/2023 8:27:23 AM PDT by dangus ( )
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To: Cronos

Support units?


7 posted on 03/20/2023 8:28:41 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they wacnto die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: The Louiswu

When I was in the army, they trained us on the Bangalore Torpedo. As they described it, I thought they were kidding. Unfortunately, they weren’t. Life expectancy was measured in steps. Much better methods today.


8 posted on 03/20/2023 8:28:56 AM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: Phoenix8

Wagner has been screaming for all the world to hear that Moscow isn’t giving his troops weapons. Przaskj;aslkaaksi whatever his name, their leader, the chef, thinks it’s a conspiracy.


9 posted on 03/20/2023 8:29:16 AM PDT by dangus ( )
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To: Cronos

Still with the stupid propaganda?


10 posted on 03/20/2023 8:31:53 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: The Louiswu

American soldiers have a tendency to impose immediate capital punishment on officers who issue stupid and pointless orders.


11 posted on 03/20/2023 8:36:22 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: PGR88

“Hollywood movies are fictional”

Including their documentaries.


12 posted on 03/20/2023 8:37:16 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: PGR88

Yeah, so what? The sky is also blue.

Regardless, what is pictured actually happened. That is one reason why attackers avoid going after folks with their backs to the wall — they abandon terror and are willing to kill you with a rock. It is like fighting zombies and you have limited ammo.

Telling someone to charge is what cannon fodder is for — to take the shot meant for the guy who can shoot back. Any army that did not do that did not survive.


13 posted on 03/20/2023 8:40:11 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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“Wagner has been screaming for all the world to hear…”

And Zelinsky keeps ignoring all reason and throws everything and everyone into the meat grinder because the Russians are spent. Any minute now they’ll fold. Any minute now.


14 posted on 03/20/2023 8:40:32 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: 2banana

dead-men-walking units


15 posted on 03/20/2023 8:44:54 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: The Louiswu

When have America’s armies had commissars at the back to shoot soldiers if they don’t advance - or advance without weapons?

Stop hating on the USA


16 posted on 03/20/2023 8:45:57 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Phoenix8
Russia has the most assault rifles in the world, over 30 million. That doesn’t count huge quantities of revolver, pistols and bolt action rifles in storage since WW2.

Looking at their other weaponry it is clear that most of those don't work and aren't maintained.

17 posted on 03/20/2023 8:48:15 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Lol yeah, AKs are notoriously finicky without constant maintenance.

Clownworld


18 posted on 03/20/2023 8:50:54 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: bobbo666
Yeah, so what? The sky is also blue.

So your argument is: Hollywood produced a movie about Soviets shooting their own troops in WWII

And that's all the proof I need that Russians are shooting their own troops in Ukraine in 2023!

Pathetic.

19 posted on 03/20/2023 8:51:13 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Dogbert41

Nope, I don’t post Putin’s propaganda like “biolabs”, etc.

that - Russian propaganda - is stupid, yes


20 posted on 03/20/2023 8:54:01 AM PDT by Cronos
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