What the Neocons Got Wrong - And How the Iraq War Taught Me About the Limits of American Power

Foreign Affairs ^ | 3/10/23 | Max Boot

[wildcard_redneck]

" The worst nightmare of a Libertarian would be The State forcing its civilians into a meat-grinder on the front lines.
That is exactly what Putin Zelensky is doing."

Fixed it for. You Snake.

The fool Zelensky could negotiate a peace but he gets east crooked money from us.

[Fury]

Yes. Rumsfeld was wrote in his autobiography that his position did not win out.

[PK1991]

What a first a first class a-hole this Das Boot is. He wants us to believe he was completely wrong about every other war up to now but this war in the Ukraine is different. This is the real one not all the other ones he supported. This guy is so much on the payroll of anyone who wants a war and will pay him to say or write something. I didn’t think I could dislike this guy anymore than I did but he has sunk to a new low.

[silverleaf]

Iraq was a theocracy like Madonna was a virgin
It was a thugocracy

There are authoritarians who use religion to maintain control, like Iran
Which also, is not a theocracy

[Timber Rattler]

So you consider freedom and liberty as a "preachy death cult?"

Well that's revealing.

[Timber Rattler]

My first thought after reading this was, what new term will they use to describe the invading of sovereign nations and clubbing it's citizens into a hazy form of democracy.

Now you sound like Code Pink nutjob Medea Benjamin.

[canuck_conservative]

My first thought after reading this was, what new term will they use to describe the invading of sovereign nations and clubbing it's citizens into a hazy form of democracy

"RUSSIFICATION"

[wildcard_redneck]

"So you consider freedom and liberty as a “preachy death cult?”
Well that's revealing."

No, I consider worldwide domination through Forever War and the wasting of Americans’ wealth and blood for the fun and profit of moralizing pundits, armchair generals, and politicians a preachy death cult.

[wildcard_redneck]

If this war escalates and the West is forced to draft unwilling citizens to fight Cuck Canuck will be the first one saying that he should not be forced to die in America’s war.

[ifinnegan]

Nothing Max Boot says can be taken at face value.

There’s a reason for whatever he’s saying and it’s not whatever point he is supposedly making. .

[Kazan]

Neocons have been wrong about just about everything since the end of the Cold War.

We went from a foreign policy that tried to free oppressed people from tyranny of communism to intervening in nations so our political class, their financial backers and the defense industry could profit.

The consequences of that are:

*Most of the world, correctly, as the world's bully.

*We've unnecessarily made Russia an enemy and pushed it into an alliance with China. And, we're closer to WWIII and nuclear war than we every have been.

*The dollar as the world's reserve currency and petrodollar are in danger.

*It's very likely Europeans will turn us as inflation increases because we blew Nord Stream pipelines and have cutoff cheaper Russian gas and oil from the continent.

Neocons are soulless sociopaths and cancer that must be removed from the conservative movement and Republican party.

[Berlin_Freeper]

Putin created the meat grinder, Fanatical Putin Stooge.

[Timber Rattler]

"RUSSIFICATION"

[wildcard_redneck]

Majority of prostitution arrests in Sweden in March involved Ukrainian women
By Walter Finch For Mailonline
12:00 EST 12 Apr 2022 , updated 07:34 EST 19 Apr 2022
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10712027/Majority-prostitution-arrests-Sweden-March-involved-Ukrainian-women.html

[Berlin_Freeper]

Not interested in your fantasies about me....

... Putin STOOOGE.

[wardaddy]

Neocon has always been strong

Many of the founders who fought Reagan and Buckley

Were literally post Trotskyites unhappy the left was getting sour on Israel

They have never been social conservatives

Nation building
Pro Israel
Anti Stalin and his successors
What culture war?

That’s neocons

Many of the middle gen came from the New Republic mag 1980s

They found a home in Bushism and the uniparty and I think dominate state dept etc

[Berlin_Freeper]

Russian Soldier sent flying by explosion by the Ukrainian 1st mechanized battalion of the 3rd OSHB.

[wildcard_redneck]

Berlin warns Ukrainian refugees about trafficking danger
Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/berlin-warns-ukrainian-refugees-about-trafficking-danger-2022-03-14/

Only the “good” wars produce cheap sex workers right Berlin Zeeper?

[Timber Rattler]

*We've unnecessarily made Russia an enemy and pushed it into an alliance with China.

Plot twist: Russia has always been an enemy of the U.S. and an ally of China.