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The Russian Armed Forces launches a retaliatory strike on Ukrainian military facilities
RIA Novosti ^ | 3/9/2023 | RIA Novosti

Posted on 03/09/2023 4:42:19 PM PST by Nextrush

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To: buwaya

“There’s a lot wrong with the US, but it’s got massive resources to put into supporting Ukraine, vastly more than Russia will ever have.”

NOT supported by any data, and even if it were true, we have now driven China into Russia’s arms.

Might you or some other Biden Cheerleader please explain the Neocon strategy for driving Russia and China together?


41 posted on 03/09/2023 6:31:14 PM PST by BobL
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

What is your interpretation of the Jan. 2023 and Feb. 2023 Russian gov’t revenue reports, compared to Jan. 2022 and Feb. 2022?


42 posted on 03/09/2023 6:31:56 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: buwaya

It just is, it’s not a valid comparison to compare North Vietnam to what’s happening in Ukraine.


43 posted on 03/09/2023 6:32:20 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Sunsong

https://www.msn.com...”

Oh, there’s a reputable source. LOL!!!


44 posted on 03/09/2023 6:32:51 PM PST by BobL
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“There was no path to victory for North Vietnam....”

“That’s a specious comparison. “

Not really - there is NO WAY that anyone with a brain can see how Ukraine wins this war, not even most of their supporters (as opposed to operatives).


45 posted on 03/09/2023 6:34:39 PM PST by BobL
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To: Paul R.
What is your interpretation of the Jan. 2023 and Feb. 2023 Russian gov’t revenue reports, compared to Jan. 2022 and Feb. 2022?

Preliminary reports affected by the war. Of course there's not going to be a substantial increase now.

Get back to me in 2027, when the value of the Russian Ruble skyrockets after newly-inaugurated President Trump negotiates a global NESARA.

46 posted on 03/09/2023 6:35:27 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Why the Hobson’s choice?”

It’s not a Hobson’s Choice. A Hobson’s Choice is where there is no choice. An example of a Hobson’s Choice would be if you had decided to commit suicide with a .357 Magnum, and you had a choice between using one with Hogue grips or ivory grips.


47 posted on 03/09/2023 6:41:14 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

It’s a very apt comparison IMHO.
North Vietnam had massive support from both the Soviet Union and China, while fighting the US in a “limited” war.


48 posted on 03/09/2023 6:45:09 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

:-)


49 posted on 03/09/2023 6:47:01 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: wildcard_redneck

The Ulrainians shot down 132 of the 81 missiles that were launched...


50 posted on 03/09/2023 6:54:39 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: wildcard_redneck; Nextrush; Extremely Extreme Extremist; BobL; aMorePerfectUnion
Every FR neoconned when contemplating the Flattened-mut cauldron:


51 posted on 03/09/2023 7:02:40 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I did not say Europe would “intervene” as in sending troops, I am postulating a level of material support to the Confederacy somewhat less than what the pro-Russia posters on here claim we are sending to Ukraine (draining our armories and so on.) Say, 25% of Europe’s weapons, sent over the first 4 year period (includes 25% of new production to stocks), and 2% of their GDP each year from 1861 on.

No doubt Biden’s economic and regulatory policies are destructive, but we’ve survived such before. I’m pretty hopeful for a swing back to sensible policies, like rolled back regs and an aggressive pursuit of increased low cost energy production, in 2025.

Oh, speaking of inflation, your buddies in Iran are running well over 40%.

If Russia wants to get in bed with China, Russia will soon find a knife in their back. If it’s not there already (China buying Russian gas and oil, but only at bargain basement prices.)


52 posted on 03/09/2023 7:09:49 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Evidently you didn’t bother checking. Russian gov’t revenues are down year over year for those last 2 months by over 40%.


53 posted on 03/09/2023 7:12:27 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: BobL

The Ukraine can win the same way Afghanistan won their war with Russia.

So far, they have done a ;bleep) of a lot better than the Afghani’s did.


54 posted on 03/09/2023 7:18:42 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Paul R.; Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Russia’s Revenue From Oil and Gas Almost Halved in February”

- Budget’s proceeds from oil taxes fell 48% from a year ago
- Gas revenue declined 42% due to lower exports to Europe

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-03/russia-s-revenue-from-oil-and-gas-almost-halved-in-february


55 posted on 03/09/2023 7:20:11 PM PST by canuck_conservative (if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors, we wouldn't need NATO anymore)
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To: kiryandil
"The Ulrainians shot down 132 of the 81 missiles that were launched..."

And the Ukrainians claim that Zelensky isn't a greedy, gay, little fag....

56 posted on 03/09/2023 7:23:05 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: buwaya

I think the difference is that North Vietnam’s supporters were a little less restrained than the West has been so far. Real Russians manning SAM batteries and so on.


57 posted on 03/09/2023 7:27:11 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Nextrush; wildcard_redneck; BobL; aMorePerfectUnion
than what the pro-Russia anti-grifting-Ukrainians posters on here claim

fixed it for ya, Paul baby.

58 posted on 03/09/2023 7:35:11 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: canuck_conservative

I can’t get “in” to Bloomberg, or at least not directly (paywall).

Did that article state how much VAT and income taxes were down in Feb. 2023? VAT (a good measure of the overall economy) was down almost 44% in Jan. 2023, IIRC. Income tax actually went freaking NEGATIVE.

From what I understand, the Russian VAT revenues might be the single best indicator for their economy overall. But, I don’t claim special insight on that point. ;-)


59 posted on 03/09/2023 7:36:55 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

this is what the article said -

“Tax revenue from oil and gas plunged 46% in February from a year ago to 521 billion rubles ($6.91 billion), the Finance Ministry said on Friday. Proceeds from crude oil and petroleum products — which accounted for over two thirds of energy tax revenue last month — fell by 48% to 361 billion rubles, according to Bloomberg calculations.

With the price of Urals oil averaging just over half of its value a year ago, Russia is seeking to gradually narrow the discount to Brent it uses to calculate taxes in an effort to boost revenue amid sanctions. Energy proceeds account for around at third of nation’s coffers, which are under pressure amid the rising cost of financing the war in Ukraine.

Gas revenue fell almost 42% in February from a year ago to 161 billion rubles, as even higher proceeds from the mineral extraction tax failed to make up for losses from export duties. Budget revenue from gas export duties fell 81% to 40 billion rubles after nation’s gas giant Gazprom PJSC reduced pipeline flows to Europe, historically its largest market, and the fuel price has significantly declined amid warmer-than-usual weather....”


60 posted on 03/09/2023 7:46:27 PM PST by canuck_conservative (if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors, we wouldn't need NATO anymore)
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