Posted on 03/08/2023 9:40:31 AM PST by lightman
Rt. Rev. Audrey is on a roll.
I was gonna say that churches have plenty to do regarding their main purpose.
Until I saw Episcopal, which isn’t hardly a church.
There was a special election last month in Allegheny County which resulted in two Democrats being elected.
That tipped the PA House majority to D.
When the grabbers play games like pretending 21 year olds are children the numbers sound credible at first glance. What is never mentioned ts that Amish males aged 15-25 are responsible for a hugely disproportionate percentage as both victim and perp. Remove this demographic and the numbers are not terrible, especially considering the number of firearms owned per capita.
Religious and Moral Gun Control?
Every gun is loaded
Keep finger off trigger until . . .
Make sure of background
That and keep your guns clean and oiled.
Just another example of the Delphi Technique applied to
our current civilization. OOoooo, a “faith group” that
just seems to pop up at a convenient moment in order to
influence and steer the narrative.
The Delphi Technique works in small gatherings and
used in this way with large masses of individuals
who do not understand what is being done to influence
their decisions.
Look it up, once you do you will begin to see it being
applied in all manner of situations from school board
meetings to zoning hearings to town hall meetings
and even on internet groups such as FR currently in
regards to the situation in Ukraine.
Who’s that guy?
Maybe gun groups should ask legislators to take up “Episcopalian Reform” measures… you know, like limiting THEIR rights??
Not so much fun when someone messes with YOUR rights, ladies, is it?
Episcopal Church was taken over by sexual deviants and eco fascists a long time ago. It is a dying church that is rotten to the core.
OK, did not know it was a state legislature. Thought they were talking about the US House of Representatives.
Thanks.
Turn the other cheek, forgive them for they know not what they do, love your enemies, and such.
The cleansing of the temple wasn’t an act of self defence
Where does Jesus ever say that use of violence is acceptable for self defense? Your argument is like saying since Jesus never spoke out against men identifying as a woman, then it’s ok.
“I am not advocating violence. I am just pointing out that it has a place in our fallen world. It is a sin to allow evil to befall innocents when it is within your power to prevent it. I readily acknowledge that is a hard thing to work through and not to be undertaken lightly”
I agree with you .
Where is the use of violence for self defence in your example?
I pray these people drop dead.
Turning the other cheek is about letting insults go, not letting yourself be used as a punching bag by every criminal that comes along.
Besides YOU are the one who used the term *violence* and yet when confronted about it, now make excuses for why some kinds of violence are OK.
Your question is disingenuous and likely intentionally obtuse.
Snippet from what I quoted,
“15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts,”
Jesus used violence to drive people out for not respecting the Lords house, unless you think using a whip is a non violent action?
There is no greater temple upon earth than the body our Lord gives us, you would allow the defiling of innocence and the Lord’s temple on the notion that is is a greater good for evil acts to be committed against an innocent then to rebuff and stop the evil through force.
Your argument distills down to the idea that it is a greater evil to use force to stop evil. If however you view force as an inherent evil you are going to have to provide some basis for that. Force is a tool, how it is employed makes it good or bad. Your logic would lead to calling genocide more virtuous and preferred than using force to stop evil actors committing genocide.
To go with the use of force for self defense there is much of that in the Bible. Look up the concept of just wars, of which many are discussed in the Bible. Also do some of your own research and look up the concept and use of sanctuary cities, if force was not appropriate for defense or even just justice for a wrong there would have never been a need for them.
Bible verses that support the need for force against evil. Keep in mind the moment an individual defends a weak person from a wicked one they will need to also defend themselves, it is inherent in the act!
Now, instead of asking trite questions and creating a sophist’s assertion as argument, please provide a posit that supports your position and also references upon which your basis rests.
Luke 22:36 He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.
Psalm 82:4 Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.”
1 Timothy But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
Proverbs Like a muddied spring or a polluted fountain is a righteous man who gives way before the wicked.
Romans If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.
I doubt that if the Good Samaritan had come upon the scene on the Jericho road a few minutes earlier he would have clasped his hands and sung Kumbiya.
FOIA Request Reveals FBI Effort to Get Americans to Forfeit 2A Rights
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/03/08/fbi-forfeit-second-amendment-rights/
Bingo! These people are frauds and it’s a photo OP! See that photo on the steps at the website? Every single leftist organization that goes to Harrisburg can barely fill up 1/2 way up the steps but the photo OP makes it look like there’s hundreds there. I really am fed up with these lying Marxists!
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