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Russia sustains up to 30,000 casualties in ongoing Battle of Bakhmut
Army Technology, GlobalData ^ | March 7, 2023 | Richard Thomas

Posted on 03/07/2023 5:39:19 PM PST by familyop

Russia’s ongoing offensive around Bakhmut has cost Moscow between 20,000-30,000 casualties, with the private security contractor Wagner Group sustaining the majority of the losses in human-wave assaults against entrenched Ukrainian positions.

For its part, Ukraine has opted to defend the city rather than pulling out, with President Volodymyr Zelensky publicly stating recently that Ukrainian forces would bolster troops numbers in the region. Russian efforts to undertake a renewed offensive in early-2023 have so far stalled, with any capture of Bakhmut offering a tactical but not strategic victory, according to western officials.

It is unclear what casualties the Ukrainian forces have sustained in defending the city, with ratios varying from around one-third to that of Russia, out to one-tenth and beyond. It can realistically be determined that Ukrainian forces will have suffered thousands of personnel wounded and killed in action in the action around Bakhmut.

It is understood that Russia’s Wagner Group has been particularly hard hit, with rudimentary tactics and poorly trained operators, many of whom have been recruited from Russian prisons, contributing to the loss of life in the offensive. Recruitment from prisons has been discontinued, with claims that there are not enough prisoners still incarcerated to backfill personnel gaps in any new recruitment drive.

Russian Army support to Wagner has been limited in recent weeks as a result of ammunition supply shortages, with stockpiles dwindling, it was claimed. Reinforcements to the Bakhmut offensive also appear to be replacing losses rather than any new troop build up, with Russia having to ensure adequate coverage across its entire 1,200km frontline in eastern Ukraine.

Bakhmut itself is effectively surrounded on three sides by Russian forces, with Ukrainian forces conducting limited withdrawals inside the urban area, in a process that sees the trading of space for time, stated western officials. The defensive action, in a city of limited strategic value, appears to be being considered as an opportunity to inflict significant casualties on Russian forces assaulting the area.

Support continues for Ukrainian forces

Meanwhile, Ukrainian forces continue training at a number of sites in Europe as NATO looks to assist Ukraine in the creation of a new cadre able to conduct combined arms operations, integrating the main battle tanks (MBT) and armoured and infantry fighting vehicles donated to Kyiv in recent months.

The UK has begun training Ukrainian forces on the use of the Challenger 2 MBT and has trained up to 10,000 new Ukrainian soldiers in infantry combat skills. Other NATO countries have followed suit with their own training efforts, in coordination or cooperation with allies.

While support for the continued support of Ukraine is generally strong across NATO countries, the Alliance’s militaries continue to make observations of the performance of Russian forces in the now one-year-old war.

Speaking at the Center for Strategic and International Studies on 1 March, Christine Wormuth, Secretary of the US Army, said that while Russia had performed “poorly” on the battlefield in Ukraine, the threat to Europe existing beyond any potential cessation of hostilities between Kyiv and Moscow.

“If you look at the track record of [Russian President Vladimir] Putin and Russia, they went into Georgia in 2008, and into Ukraine for the first time in 2014. However the war in Ukraine resolves itself in the next year or two, I think we have to think very seriously and be very concerned about the possibility that Putin will try again to retake territory in Ukraine,” Wormuth said.


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1 posted on 03/07/2023 5:39:19 PM PST by familyop
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To: familyop

Brandonistas here gonna love this


2 posted on 03/07/2023 5:41:08 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: familyop

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3 posted on 03/07/2023 5:42:54 PM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: familyop

Russia 30,000 deaths and the mighty Ukraine 0 deaths. I assume that because I don’t see that number mentioned. A pure sign that you are being fed propaganda.

So whats the problem?


4 posted on 03/07/2023 5:43:28 PM PST by Revel
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To: familyop

“Russia sustains up to 30,000 casualties in ongoing Battle of Bakhmut”

...and a bunch of Ukrainian Scuba Divers, working off a yacht, took 1500 lbs. of explosives to the seabed and blew up Nordstream, at least according to the New York times today.


5 posted on 03/07/2023 5:44:20 PM PST by BobL
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To: familyop

Sure they did. The West no longer has a free press. It is all corporate/government controlled.


6 posted on 03/07/2023 5:46:58 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: BobL

NY Slimes = Deep State Propaganda Outlet


7 posted on 03/07/2023 5:47:43 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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To: BobL

Intel agencies say “bend over”

My Slimes “should I hold my ankles too, master?”


8 posted on 03/07/2023 5:49:24 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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To: familyop

What is up with mercenaries these days?

Did we have them in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, or during the Soviet vs. Afghan war?

Maybe we/they had them but I don’t remember them. Private militaries could become a problem like they were in the Middle Ages.


9 posted on 03/07/2023 5:53:56 PM PST by packagingguy
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We could clean out our prisons and “volunteer” some soldiers.


10 posted on 03/07/2023 6:04:07 PM PST by oldasrocks (quew)
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To: BobL

Least believable story yet.(Ukrainian scuba bombers)

Now the Globalists are just insulting us.


11 posted on 03/07/2023 6:11:00 PM PST by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjamin Franklin.)
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To: oldasrocks

Sell our prison inmates to the highest bidder....but the buyer has to keep them.


12 posted on 03/07/2023 6:11:03 PM PST by davidb56
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Back then it was easier to hide the rifle barrel at the “volunteers” head than it is now.

One joined because one might get sent to the front in France instead of fighting rooskies at the Eastern Front.

Same thing in Korea, Vietnam etc.


13 posted on 03/07/2023 6:16:42 PM PST by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjamin Franklin.)
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To: BobL

so you’re finally waking up Bob

good, at least you’re making some progress now


14 posted on 03/07/2023 6:17:10 PM PST by canuck_conservative (if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors, we wouldn't need NATO anymore)
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To: RedMonqey

I don’t understand your post, what does it say?


15 posted on 03/07/2023 6:33:09 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: familyop

🇷🇺 advanced further in the south of the city.

🇷🇺 continue to secure areas of the eastern bank abandoned by 🇺🇦.

16 posted on 03/07/2023 6:33:53 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: familyop

These kinds of things are difficult to quantify, when you can’t fully believe any source.

Here’s yet one more source:

Colonel Douglas MacGregor (ret), is a former tank commander in the Gulf war and has worked extensively with NATO, before he retired.

His estimate is a total loss of approximately 250,000 Ukrainian troops.


17 posted on 03/07/2023 6:43:13 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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In other words, it’s the mouthpiece of the industrial side of “the military-industrial complex”.

Personally, I don’t trust casualty figures from any side.


18 posted on 03/07/2023 6:51:09 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: familyop

more prop....widely inaccurate


19 posted on 03/07/2023 7:27:33 PM PST by blackberry1
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To: FlyingEagle

“ Brandonistas here gonna love this”
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Well, they do enjoy reading fiction.


20 posted on 03/07/2023 7:29:00 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAXI)
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