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To: buwaya

Except verdun didn’t fall And both sides fairly even

Bakhmut is toast and Ukraine depleted there

Once it’s gone it’ll be it really didn’t matter anyhow


56 posted on 03/07/2023 11:30:02 PM PST by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: wardaddy; buwaya

wardaddy - note that buwaya said clearly that Verdun was far more important for morale and was considered a border garrison for nearly a century at that point.

Verdun was a fortress city on the River Meuse, and a strategically-vital link in the French sector of the Allied line on the Western Front. To the French people, Verdun was also a symbolic fortress and a national treasure. The loss of such a citadel would be an enormous blow to French morale.

Bakhmut is and was not - it is symbolic in a lower sense, but not as big a loss as it was when Kherson fell to Russia last year.

“Bakhmut is toast” — well, not yet. It’s been 7 months and it still hasn’t fallen. It probably will (or won’t - still to be seen), but 7 months for the supposedly 2nd strongest military in the world is a massive infra dig for Russia.

“Ukraine is depleted there” - not quite. Remember that defenders have lower losses in most cases and especially so when the Ukrainians have been preparing this place for 8 years as a killing point to kill Russians. Numbers bandied around are anywhere from 3 Russians killed for every 1 Ukrainian to 7:1 and even 10:1

“Once it’s gone it’ll be it really didn’t matter anyhow”

The “once” is unknown at this time,
:didn’t matter anywhow” — no more than Mariupol which make a chokehold for the Russians in the east keeping them busy, and also killing off many Russian soldiers.


57 posted on 03/08/2023 12:39:11 AM PST by Cronos
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