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Military Casualties In Russia-Ukraine War Are Likely Less Than Commonly Stated
https://www.forbes.com/ ^ | Mar 5, 2023,06 | Vikram Mittal

Posted on 03/06/2023 1:15:24 AM PST by RomanSoldier19

At the start of March, the General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces stated that the Russian military casualties exceeded 150,000. Meanwhile, several reports indicate that Ukrainian military casualties are in excess of 100,000.

However, it is likely that the actual numbers of Russian and Ukrainian combat losses are considerably less.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 100000russiandead; donbasquagmire; failedinvasion; fog; putinisgay; war
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1 posted on 03/06/2023 1:15:24 AM PST by RomanSoldier19
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“ At the start of March, the General Staff of Ukraine’s Armed Forces stated that the Russian military casualties exceeded 150,000. Meanwhile, several reports indicate that Ukrainian military casualties are in excess of 100,000. However, it is likely that the actual numbers of Russian and Ukrainian combat losses are considerably less…”
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Good old honest Forbes saying “hey, guys, it’s not nearly as bad as you think” as they try to fend off the growing war weariness and the awakening realization that this whole war & sanction business is devastating the West.


2 posted on 03/06/2023 1:49:04 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAXI)
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To: House Atreides

Actually, Ukrainian casualties are likely considerably higher and Russian casualties are nearly certainly substantially less than stated.


3 posted on 03/06/2023 1:51:24 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAXI)
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To: House Atreides

Why is that? There is no formula for casualties from bombardment. Especially not for highly dispersed, fortified defenders.

There is no good basis for assumptions of casualties. Forbes estimate is a swag. I’d say good try, but flawed.


4 posted on 03/06/2023 1:56:43 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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Why is that? There is no formula for casualties from bombardment.

10 to 1 Russian advantage in number of artillery pieces and rounds fired. That's why.

5 posted on 03/06/2023 2:07:36 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

This does not translate to crippling casualties for Ukraine, on its own. What we see from drone and satellite footage is masses of shell craters in empty fields. Which leads me to think that the Russians have problems with targeting and dispersion, at least.

The Ukrainians are highly dispersed and generally under heavy cover.

Granted that if you shoot enough you will randomly catch people out of cover, or hit the precise spot, sometimes, but you can’t predict how many casualties you are generating that way per 1000 rounds of ammo.

You are going to have to wait until it’s all over.


6 posted on 03/06/2023 2:19:11 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

The fact that they are pressing 16 and 60 years old into service is a reliable indicator.

Russia initially committed about 200,000 personnel and no more than 80,000 more over the next 12 months.


7 posted on 03/06/2023 3:22:45 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: RomanSoldier19

In other words we are being lied to on a daily basis. But as long as people believe it it’s true.


8 posted on 03/06/2023 3:27:13 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: McGruff

Just the 2023 version of the Five O’Clock Follies.


9 posted on 03/06/2023 4:02:14 AM PST by Roccus (Veritas, non verba magistri)
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nah, you got it backwards

Russian casualties are much higher than reported, and Ukrainian casualties are a lot less

so Ukraine isn’t running out of fighting troops, but Russia is


10 posted on 03/06/2023 4:03:13 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

Is there a reason you always lie? You know what the truth is but you insist on lying.


12 posted on 03/06/2023 4:15:12 AM PST by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: buwaya

I have seen the devastated cities the Ukrainians have tried to defend and they are moonscapes sculpted by artillery. Russia is practicing the same method of war they used against the Germans in WW II and we know how that worked out. Millions of German dead.


13 posted on 03/06/2023 4:17:51 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: NorseViking

Russia started the invasion with 270,000 troops

then conscripted another 300,000 last September

that’s 570,000 so far

and Russia will probably need a new mobilization this spring, considering how quickly Ukrainians are mowing them down ...


14 posted on 03/06/2023 4:18:15 AM PST by canuck_conservative (if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors, we wouldn't need NATO anymore)
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To: canuck_conservative

Whatever makes you fell better canuck, even if it is lying to yourself.


15 posted on 03/06/2023 4:18:53 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: dforest

not lying

you just have trouble accepting that Russia is losing

prove me wrong


16 posted on 03/06/2023 4:20:22 AM PST by canuck_conservative (if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors, we wouldn't need NATO anymore)
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To: canuck_conservative

There weren’t 270k. Of 300k reservists not even a third are currently deployed.


17 posted on 03/06/2023 4:20:24 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: RomanSoldier19

Lot’s of casualties in this war. Utmost the truth.


18 posted on 03/06/2023 4:23:17 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: House Atreides

BAKHMUT: A DOSE OF REALITY [2 minute video]

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1632699567530561537

“AFU trying to get out of Bakhmut through muddy fields.

Bakhmut is under operational encirclement and the roads are under fire control from artillery, mortars and tanks of Wagner.

Wagner using UAV’s to follow AFU movements so it can coordinate the fire.”


19 posted on 03/06/2023 4:25:43 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: NorseViking; McGruff

See 19, or just check this account now and then. Updates constantly.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics


20 posted on 03/06/2023 4:27:01 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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