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UK Defense Ministry: Freshly mobilized Russian soldiers ordered to storm Ukrainian positions with ‘firearms and shovels’
MSN-- ---Kyiv Independent ^ | 3-4

Posted on 03/05/2023 7:23:59 AM PST by dennisw

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To: Pilsner

It is an hour and nine minutes of video, no thanks.


41 posted on 03/05/2023 9:30:02 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

The quote is from SACEUR. You can look it up. He said it would take us years to get to that level of production. Now maybe he is also lying and saying the west can never get there. But that is what He said.


42 posted on 03/05/2023 9:31:56 AM PST by AndyJackson (.)
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To: dennisw

Always accuse your enemy of what you are doing.


43 posted on 03/05/2023 9:34:53 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: AndyJackson

LOL, no, I’m not going to look up your source for a quote that you posted, and which sounds ridiculous and made up.

Did you see post 38.


44 posted on 03/05/2023 9:35:46 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: dennisw

Russian made 5.45mm ammo is readily available on the net. This article is pure propaganda.


45 posted on 03/05/2023 9:52:33 AM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater 2024)
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To: thegagline

What does that have to do with the Russian logistics system at the front?


46 posted on 03/05/2023 10:06:53 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12
I did. Apparently, however, Russia in 2021 produced 733,260 152mm rounds and 3,558,454 rounds since 2014.

So at current rates of expenditure at 20,000/day they ran out half a year ago. So I guess Russia is doomed and done for.

Or someone is lying and the old doctrine of enough HE to blow up the world is still Russian doctrine, which we discounted but they haven't. Of course we can count on an idiot like Putin to blow all the ammo he would need to fight NATO on his SMO, unless, surprise surprise he didn't.

Or you can open your eyes and discover that lots of people in the west are lying. I don't know what the truth is, except that I am pretty confident that when everyone's statements contradict hard realities, they are lying.

47 posted on 03/05/2023 10:11:47 AM PST by AndyJackson (.)
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-”” It would take years to ramp up production to match the 20,000 artillery rounds per day that the Russians are expending on average.”—

When you find that quote about taking a year to get to 20,000 a day, let me know.


48 posted on 03/05/2023 10:24:08 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: AndyJackson

I would like to see the quote of someone saying we can produce 20,000 155 rounds per day in a year.

Russia is getting or trying to get shells from its friends, Red China and North Korea.


49 posted on 03/05/2023 10:27:31 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

No one is saying we can. They are saying it will take us several years to ramp up to the production levels we need- whatever that level is, which is an admission that the Russians are way overmatching our production. That is the only point.


50 posted on 03/05/2023 10:33:47 AM PST by AndyJackson (.)
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To: dennisw

that’s just propaganda.
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Bakhmut is being evacuated.
about 2K to 3K leaving daily in convoys starting every 30 minutes w abt 50-70 per.
wagner estimates 10-12K soldiers still in city so a few more days.. evac routes are known.
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details in todays update from mil summary channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKzyJx8Ih-Q


51 posted on 03/05/2023 10:42:11 AM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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"So go post some pro-Putin / pro-Invasion trash. No one is stopping you."

Sorry, I don't get joy out of pushing propaganda like you Dennis.

52 posted on 03/05/2023 11:00:29 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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-””The quote is from SACEUR. You can look it up. He said it would take us years to get to that level of production. Now maybe he is also lying and saying the west can never get there. But that is what He said.””-

I don’t think anyone said we can get to 20,000 a day, that is why I was asking for the quote.


53 posted on 03/05/2023 11:02:52 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: dennisw

If one intends to take and keep territory, after the artillery has done its job it is necessary to root out the enemy hand to hand.

Just as the US Marines had to do in the Pacific during WWII. Just as the Russians had to do in Berlin during WWII.

And just as we had to do in Fallujah during the Gulf War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Fallujah

Just as it has always been.


54 posted on 03/05/2023 11:05:09 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: marcusmaximus

“Chemo party for Putin in Sochi right now. So much winning!”

Yep, I’m also looking forward to Medvedev taking over, as he’ll quickly finish off this war, using whatever it takes.


55 posted on 03/05/2023 11:09:37 AM PST by BobL
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To: BobL

Medvedev is a drunk.


56 posted on 03/05/2023 11:25:59 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

“Medvedev is a drunk.”

That’s what make him EFFECTIVE, as we’ll see.


57 posted on 03/05/2023 11:34:52 AM PST by BobL
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To: marcusmaximus

#Putin
#Sochi
#Chemo
__________

Hopefully, he stays in Sochi on a never ending chemo drip. Anyways, one day Putin will not return to the Kremlin from Sochi. Due to a coup or fear of assassination.


58 posted on 03/05/2023 1:43:21 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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I myself know nothing. I just know that a whole bunch of folks on "our" side are lying.

Dittos.

59 posted on 03/05/2023 1:48:41 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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60 posted on 03/05/2023 8:01:41 PM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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