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‘Bakhmut Will Fall’ Russian Offensive Encircles Key Ukrainian Frontline City
Breitbart ^ | 03/01/2023 | BREITBART LONDON

Posted on 03/01/2023 6:09:55 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: tlozo

Don’t argue like a teenager I never claimed Russia does nothing wrong it’s not either or I’ll tell you one major difference Russia publishes casualties for Ukraine does not show anything anyone says hear about how little Ukraine has lost has no idea what you’re talking about but we can certainly see how much the conscripting can’t wait that does not indicate a country that is not taken casualties significant casualties


41 posted on 03/01/2023 7:40:47 AM PST by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: Timber Rattler
Its the geography that matters here, not some village.

-btw Bahkmut sits along the the M-03 highway that runs straight into Slavyansk, so the Russians control the main roads and occupy the high ground south of the city...an excellent 'strategic location' from which spring flowers will grow.

42 posted on 03/01/2023 7:40:55 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: tlozo

Put on your big girl pants and find some yourself. I’m not your butler.


43 posted on 03/01/2023 7:46:41 AM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: cweese
Put on your big girl pants and find some yourself. I’m not your butler.

No, you just make up bs, which is called lying.

44 posted on 03/01/2023 7:49:44 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: tlozo

Yawn.


45 posted on 03/01/2023 7:56:58 AM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: JoSixChip
"The total dead in this war is aprox 14000/200000 (Russians/Ukrainians). This is verified in the UK no less."

Pales in comparison to the battle for Stalingrad or the Somme. Really nothing compares to the losses in European wars over the past centuries.

46 posted on 03/01/2023 8:04:29 AM PST by bruoz
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To: bruoz

The butcher’s bill for just one night in Dresden.


47 posted on 03/01/2023 8:11:36 AM PST by bruoz
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To: kabar
Do we really believe the human waves attacks?

Plenty of videos showed Russian soldiers(Wagner?) trying to advance without any armor. Its called Russian reconnaissance by fire. Sending groups of poorly trained/ armed soldiers forward, which forces Ukrainian positions to reveal themselves, resulting in the Russian artillery targeting them.

48 posted on 03/01/2023 8:13:34 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Widget Jr
Ukraine will start withdrawing from Bakhmut in a few days.

The article says Bakhmut is encircled. In other words, "Now youse can't leave!"

49 posted on 03/01/2023 8:42:24 AM PST by Tom in SFCA
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To: tlozo
Plenty of videos showed Russian soldiers(Wagner?) trying to advance without any armor. Its called Russian reconnaissance by fire. Sending groups of poorly trained/ armed soldiers forward, which forces Ukrainian positions to reveal themselves, resulting in the Russian artillery targeting them.

Why not send small reconnaissance drones? We are constantly being fed propaganda by both sides. I don't believe the human wave attacks nonsense. The Soviets did not fight that way in Afghanistan.

Russian losses are way overstated by the Ukrainians and their own losses understated. Similarly, the Russians minimize their own losses while inflating the casualty numbers of the Ukrainians. It is the way war propaganda works since the dawn of time. We do it too. I saw it in Vietnam with the metric of body counts.

50 posted on 03/01/2023 9:35:06 AM PST by kabar
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To: mac_truck
Exactly what I was looking for - a terrain map of the heights west of liberated Bakhmut.

It was difficult to see them on Goolag maps.

51 posted on 03/01/2023 11:08:51 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: caww

It’s been done for two days, they are trying to let the Ukrainian’s get out in a respectable manner!

Be blessed!


52 posted on 03/01/2023 9:27:02 PM PST by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! It's )
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To: kiryandil

Glad I could help.

On Russia/Ukraine, Yandex > Google 😉


53 posted on 03/02/2023 10:46:30 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: wardaddy; tlozo
wardaddy "Bombed the hell out of ... for 8 years"

have you looked at the actual deaths?

During Russia’s 2014-2021 military operations against Ukraine, 14,500 people died in the Donbas war. Of that 14,000, 3,404 were civilians, 4,400 were Ukrainian servicemen and 6,500 were Russian militants.

The figure Putinistas use, 14000, is the total number of casualties incurred in the Donbas war by both sides.

Data obtained from the reports of the so-called “Commissioner for Human Rights in the Donetsk People’s Republic” show casualty figures even lower than those of the United Nations. In a 2020 report the total losses of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) since the start of the war in Donbas are estimated to be 4,959. This is the figure that is officially recorded by the DPR “legislature”.

The report also claims that the majority of deaths occurred in 2014-2015, when 2,546 and 1,395 died respectively. In subsequent years the number of casualties in the Donbas war has significantly decreased. In 2016, 348 people were killed, in 2017 – 278, in 2018 – 154, in 2019 – 160 people. In 2020, 44 people died, marking the lowest casualty rate for the entire period of the armed conflict -- and that was mainly people dying from RUSSIAN land-mines

The number of deaths among the civilian population, which the “ombudsman” of the DPR cites in his reports, in recent years show only isolated cases of local populations’ deaths. In 2017, the number civilian casualties were 32, in 2018 – 19, in 2019 – 9, and in 2020 – 5 people. As these statistics attest, even official bodies of the self-proclaimed republics do not confirm the “mass destruction of the civilian population of the republics by Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Keeping this in mind, you really should rethink your "bombing the not out of..."

54 posted on 03/03/2023 7:14:41 AM PST by Cronos
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