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To: Red Badger

There may be charging stations on the map but one thing it does not tell you is it it operable or not occupied. Who did not see this coming? The people who are pushing this nightmare on the public need be exterminated starting with the heads of the car companies.


16 posted on 02/28/2023 11:21:20 AM PST by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: Mouton

https://www.visiontimes.com/2023/01/19/thieves-steal-electric-car-chargers-copper-prices.html


20 posted on 02/28/2023 11:26:28 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Mouton

You have clearly never driven a Tesla on a road trip. The computer in the car knows how many stalls are free, the charging rates, where to stop and for how long, etc.


22 posted on 02/28/2023 11:35:39 AM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: Mouton
There may be charging stations on the map but one thing it does not tell you is it it operable or not occupied.

Plugshare is a good forum app with other EV owners telling you general broad reviews of the charging stations (i.e. got 130kW max from the 150kW charging station #3, or well lit up at night, etc.). I hear good reviews about ABRP (A Better Route Planner). Neither of those, though, give you real time stats.

The apps for the various charging networks (i.e. Electrify America, or Chargepoint) give you real time stats and prices. (i.e. 2 350kW CCS charging stations working, 1 available; 4 150kW CCS stations, working 2 available).

If my wife and I take the EV on a trip (sometimes it's better to take the ICE pickup), that's how we plan the charging stops. Since it takes 10-15 minutes to charge at a 350kW, or 15-20 minutes at a 150kW, and since she likes to stop every 200 miles and walk around 10 or 15 minutes anyway even when we take the ICE pickup and don't have to stop at 200 miles, the EV often works well for us. Then there's if we stay at a hotel with a charger (often slow like charging at home, but who cares if it takes 6 hours to charge while you sleep). Basically when we leave the hotel we have a full charge instead of having to stop and get gas like we do if we take the ICE pickup.

If the plugshare app doesn't help us find good chargers on a road trip we want to take, we take the ICE pickup. It's rare I go on a road trip for work without my wife, something I haven't done since we got the EV. But if that happens again I'll probably take the ICE pickup so I can stop every 300 or 400 miles instead of at 200 miles.

All of this, though, is from a free market perspective. I very much disagree with the premise of the article written from a "Oh, government, save us" mindset. The main reason there are less chargers on the road is because entrepreneurs are afraid to pay the cost to set up some chargers next to their store or restaurant knowing the government is liable to force a new Volkswagen settlement to build an Electrify American charging bay nearby that's free to new EV owners for the first year or two. IMHO if government quit "helping" there'd be more entrepreneurs providing good chargers for EV owners like the free market produced good gas stations for ICE owners.

24 posted on 02/28/2023 11:41:06 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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